Is there a REAL difference between a Clack and a Hyde?

Discussion in 'Watercraft' started by Peter Pancho, Feb 11, 2004.

  1. luv2fly2

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    some very good info. i am learning great stuff. i understand the concept of avoiding rocks but on the ronde in low water you can not avoid them. keep the info coming as that is why we are here.
     
  2. Davy

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    BO's foot release anchor systems are made and can be put in any boat I believe.If you ask Hyde I am sure can.
     
  3. Mike Colagrossi

    Mike Colagrossi Whammo!

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    I run a 2002 16.8 WF Clack and have to agree this feature is awesome, my buddy rows a older Hyde and it can be cumbersome at times to release the anchor and take your hands off the sticks but not a huge deal. My boat has the new tunnel hull and I must say it tracks awesome and holds a line great. They have been great with regards to warranty ( I broke a oar and they just said send it in and sent me a new one overnight ) and the people down in Oregon were great. They even shipped the boat from Idaho Falls to Clackamas, OR so I could buy it there and not have to pay sales tax (saved us around (450-500 bucks ). We bought a used boat and they refinished the entire bottom and provided all accessories needed.

    I have never run a wood boat or a aluminum boat all I can say is that I am a very satisfied owner of a Clacka, we were looking into Lavro's but their Fly Fishing boat was to expensive for our budget.

    Good Luck!

    Mike
     
  4. Calvin1

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    I have a 2002 Hyde, and have no complaints. It tracks, turns on a dime, handles the rocks just fine, etc. Having said that, if I were able to get a similar Claka for the same price, I would do it in a heartbeat. I feel that the Claka's just have some additional finishing touches and nice to haves that are absent on the Hyde's. The rod storage is better, the under the seat storage in front and back is better, the Claka's are a bit wider and feel roomier than they Hyde's, I like the fishers station in the back that I believe come standard on the Claka's and are optional on Hyde's of similar length.

    Again, I love my Hyde, just my two cents.

    Calvin
     
  5. YAKIMA

    YAKIMA AKA: Gregory Mine

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    Is there a REAL difference between a Clack and a Hy...

    MY .02 CENTS WORTH.... ITS THE FLOOR UNDER THE ROWING AREA THAT SELLS ME ON THE HYDE. I HAVE HAD BOTH, AND BEEN IN A LOT OF ONES OWNED BY OTHERS. YOU SEE, I HAVE M.S., AND THE FLOOR ON THE CLACK IS A SINGLE LEVEL, SO YOU FEEL THE ACTION OF THE WATER. WHEN YOUR A LITTLE OFF KILTER LIKE I AM USUALLY, THAT ADDED OFF-BALANCE FEELING IS NOT COMFORTING. WITH THE HYDE, YOU HAVE THE SOLID FLOOR UNDERNEATH YOU THAT MAKES IT TO ME, A LOT MORE STABLE AND SECURE FOR THE ROWER WHEN HE STANDS UP. YOU HAVE THE SAME FLEXIBLE BOTTOM UNDER THE PLATFORM/FLOOR OF THE STICK MANS FEET IN THE HYDE. I ALSO LIKE THE WAY THE HYDE GETS THE WATER OUT FROM YOUR FEET AND INTO THE CHANNELS ON THE SIDE. DONT KID ME WRONG, MY M.S. IS NOTHING IN THE SCHEME OF LIFE OR ANY FISHING SITUATION, BUT I DID NOTICE IT WHEN ON THE STICKS IN THE CLACK AND HAVE TO STAND UP TO FISH, OR HELP ONE OF THE KIDS. EITHER WAY YOU WILL BE IN LOVE WITH WHAT YOU GET...
    GREG
     
  6. Jerry Daschofsky

    Jerry Daschofsky Moderator Staff Member

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    Hey Sinktip, what year is your Alumaweld? I miss mine. I had one as well. Loved that boat, and was excellent for any type of fishing I used it for. Cried the day I sold it (was a wife thing, should've gotten rid of the now exwife instead of the boat). Agree they don't make em like that anymore. You're right, I was gonna say that as well, go with the 16'. You won't complain having that extra length.

    One thing to remember if you do go aluminum. Either find someone (or can do yourself) to apply UHMW to the bottom, or make sure use coat it/gluvit on the bottom. Will help sliding over those rocks. You will encounter them, no matter how careful you are. Unless you're on non "glacial" rivers. But most of the Westside rivers are strewn with rocks. And after a flood, usually a rock or two in a spot they normally aren't. I'm very careful with my boats, but occasionally will run over a rock (not actually hit one on the side).
     
  7. Steve Buckner

    Steve Buckner Mother Nature's Son

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    I know that you've been mulling the idea of a new boat around for well over a year. The only thing I can say is just pick one and enjoy the hell out of it!!!

    (You better have a boat of your own the next time you post ;)!!!) Seriously though, you can make yourself crazy thinking about it. Just pick one, go with the best info that you've got, and fish! I doubt you'd make a mistake with either boat. For me, I'm happy with the Aluminum Hyde 16.8 guide model, but I'm sure if I bought a Clack, I'd be happy too.

    The only advice I could reallly give is to make sure that you get the 16 ft. + boat. Don't go with anything shorter.

    Steve Buckner
    www.northwestflyfisherman.com
     
  8. Fishbait

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    Get a Willie. $3995 brand new out of the box with a new trailer. Two coats of Gluv-it and your in the water. Tracks great, rows great and it's brand new. It's a basic 16X54, not fancy, but you don't even have to grease the wheel bearings. Call Tyler at 1-800-866-7775
     
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    What Skinny says above is gospel-- just about any boat you choose for your first you will love- just fish- if you trully love driftboating it will "only" be your first-over the years you will probably have many, its like flyrods-- why do we keep buying another?
     
  10. sinktip

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    Having a brain freeze right now. It is either an 84 or and 86. Truth in advertising it is actually not mine, I just house it, row it and use it. The owner uses it once or twice a year with me on the sticks. I know, I know but someones got to do it :)

    You are right on the Glovit or other coating. Aluminum does not slide well by itself.
     
  11. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    Is there a REAL difference between a Clack and a Hy...

    Went for a drift on the Satsop yesterday with Fishbait in his Willie. Not having any experience with driftboats, other than a float down the Grays River in a glass 10' "mini-drifter" (almost cramped for two guys, but fits in the back of a full-sized pickup), I can say that I was really impressed by the roominess and stability of a 16 footer.
    I volunteered to row whenever, and Fishbait finally let me row toward the end of the float. Sweet handling! (Although I have nothing to compare it to). I now have a reason to buy a lotto ticket!
    By the way it was an awesome day, the water low (for the Satsop) and clear, and thanks to Fishbait's
    generosity and skillful boat handling, I caught and released a beautiful 6-7# native hen. (We were using gear at the time, "side-drifting," but we would pull over on bars, get out and swing flies when we could--no luck there, unfortunately).
    Fishbait, if you are reading this, thanks again for an incredible day on the Satsop!

    Jimbo:thumb
     
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    >BO's foot release anchor systems are made and can be
    >put in any boat I believe.If you ask Hyde I am sure
    >can.
    I'm using an older Clack and have the anchoring system that you need to use your hands to release. How does the
    foot release work? How do you retrieve the anchor while on the oars.
     
  13. nomlasder

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    The argument is like blondes, brunettes, or redheads.

    I prefer the wood boats because of the history, tradition and "feel". The glass and metal boats have their attributes.

    I spent a couple very fine days on the Grande Ronde this winter, and very easily steered around the rocks. Awsome acres of boldered pocket water.

    My latest drifter is 16"-6" 54" wide with a 6'-6+ beam. Created a bit of a flatened area in the center to gain about 1 1/2 inch on draft. (The last one only draws 7")
    Marine plywood , white oak, and epoxy. I am also putting on a HDPE 60mil over the bottom. I'll let you know if I pull it off.

    What ever you fish in, or catch. Just enjoy the fact you get to.
     
  14. willieboat

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    Is there a REAL difference between a Clack and a Hy...

    I got my Willieboat new at the 97 Sportman's Show. I paid 4000.00 and change. Since then, I've floted lots of rivers several times, with the Cowlitz being the main one. Easy row, I agree. I've banged it off of Queets rock, dodged Wynoochie rootwads, and rowed all over Hood Canal. No complaints. Every couple of years I coat the bottom with Gluvit. Never gear fished from it though. I usually just use it to get to the gravel bars, hop out and fish. :7
     
  15. Coho

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    Is there a REAL difference between a Clack and a Hy...

    Hey Peter:

    Two Time Hyde owner and long time drift boat fisherman.
    Hydes are awesome boats - but the arguement between Hydes and Clackas are like the Ford truck versus Chevy truck arguement - they are both great boats.

    I personally prefer the interior set up of my Hyde to the Clacka - but that is personal preference.
    A couple of thoughts for you;

    1. A huge advantage that Hyde has is the new G3 coating system that you can get as an option for their fiberglass boats. It is a polymer that they bond on to the bottom of the boat and it makes the boat basically bullet proof. I guide part time and have had many low water trips down the Yakima as well as other rivers - and not a bit of damage or wear and tear to show for it. The G3 coating makes a glass boat (at least the bottom) as durable or close to as durable as an aluminum boat. And glass is far more comfortable. If you fish the tougher rivers of the OP or the Deschutes - aluminum is nice, but the rivers you mentioned, Cowlitz and Sauk, are fairly easy rivers and glass would work great on both.


    2. Row both of them - (Go rent a new Clacka at Red's on the Yakima for $125/day.)

    PM me if you want more thoughts or opinions. By the way, if you do get a Clack - I love their "bumblebee" color pattern!


    Coho