It's That Time Of Year!!! SRCs on the Cowlitz!

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Breck, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. jeff bandy

    jeff bandy Make my day

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    Breck, I am more than willing to help you rid the river of those nasty hatchery brats. Just give me a call.
     
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    1. Why are you hotspotting the Cowlitz - Now it will be crowded!!!
    2. Why are those fish on the rocks?!
    3. How did you catch so many same time?
    4. When is the next float plane trip to the Cowlitz?
    5. Why didn't you properly cite the fly tier with a link to his website and a hyperlink mention?
    6. Nice report, hope to get on the river with ya again sometime soon ;)
    It's cool that WFF has basically turned into the man View.
     
  3. jeff bandy

    jeff bandy Make my day

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    JesseC, "man View."
    2 thumbs up!!
     
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  4. tinman207

    tinman207 Active Member

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    Thanks for sharing....looks like fun! Sounds delicious too! I have a brine and smoke recipe for trout that my dad passed down to me from my grandfather. I rarely even keep planters, but occasionally I will fill the smoker with a batch....definitely my favorite way to eat them. I'm going to try your fillet method though....sounds great.
     
  5. jeff bandy

    jeff bandy Make my day

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    "fillet method"
    The thought of it is making my mouth water and stomach growl.
     
  6. The T.O. Show

    The T.O. Show Buenos Hatches Ese

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    Good god, the hyenas are quick to pounce on here... Hatchery fish, fins clipped, kept within the regs by fly fishers on the Cowlitz... if you have a problem with that you shouldn't be fishing at all. Go plant a tree in a park and watch it grow...
     
  7. Preston

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    Just a couple of historical notes on the Knudson Spider and the Reversed (Kinney) Spider:
    Al Knudson developed his Yellow Spider (as he called it) as a steelhead fly on the Rogue River. Bringing it back with him when he returned to Everett in the 1930s, it quickly became a favorite sea-run cutthroat fly on the Stillaguamish and other rivers. Originally tied in yellow with mallard flank hackle, it quickly came to be tied in many different colors and with different waterfowl flank feathers. Al sometimes tied a grizzly hackle beneath the mallard flank to "prop" it up and give it more body but this is usually omitted (probably because it doesn't work). The tail is another feature usually omitted today. This simple soft hackle became a standard "style" of fly in the northwest and has commonly come to be referred to to as a "Knudson Spider".

    In the 1970s, Mike Kinney developed his pattern, which he referred to as a Reverse (or Reversed) Spider. Its kinship with the Knudson Spider is obvious, but differs in that the hackle is reversed, tied forward in a conical orientation out and over the eye of the hook. Originally tied with a hackle of waterfowl flank (and later with Lady Amherst or Golden pheasant tippet), this style affords much more movement of the hackle and seems to be very attractive, not only to cutthroat but also to salmon and steelhead, and in in salt water as well as the rivers for which it was originally developed.

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  8. KerryS

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    Oh for crying out loud, I merely pointed out that the fly you had in your picture was a reverse spider commonly credited to Mike Kinney. Get over yourself dude.
     
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    And the difference between a soft hackle and a "spider" is????

    :)
     
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    plaegreid Saved by the buoyancy of citrus

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    QUIT POKING THE BEARS, GENE!
     
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  12. Breck

    Breck The Whisky Guy

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    OK, OK. Let's put this behind us. It's a silly exchange, anyway.
     
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    _WW_ Geriatric Skagit Swinger

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    Wait! Wait! I know this one!
    Four letters!
     
  14. Breck

    Breck The Whisky Guy

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    Apparently not. Still seems to be plenty of clipped fish around. I think I heard that same rumor a few years back.
     
  15. Preston

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    Gene,
    I don't think there is any real difference between a soft hackle and a spider. Perhaps a spider features longer and softer hackles than a typical soft hackle. Is there any difference between a Carey Special or a spider and a soft hackle?