Japanese Fishy ID

Discussion in 'Photography / Video' started by mr trout, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Gabriel Burgi

    Gabriel Burgi doesn't live in WA anymore :(

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    It looks like the guy with the fish and the kid on the left are wearing wetsuits...

    Reminds me of the old guy in Fly Fishing the 41st by Prosek.
     
  2. gordon

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    that is a freshwater resident cherry salmon for sure. they have similar life histories to steelhead and are the most primitive form (on the evolutionary tree) of pacific salmon.

    the fish is in full spawning mode, probably a small resident male. small resident male cherry can breed with either resident cherrys or larger anadromous cherrys, just as rainbow trout mate with steelhead and sea run cutthroat with resident cutthroat, not to mention all the other species that exhibit similar behaviors.

    those might actually be scars from fighting as opposed to marks from the fish lying on the rocks. the fish looks a little to freshly killed to have those marks from lying on the rocks. i imagine it was fighting with resident and andromous cherrys, for the female he loved so dearly.

    cool stuff.
     
  3. mr trout

    mr trout Trevor Hutton

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    Not trying to shoot down your answer, but Im not so sure. Cherry salmon, O. masou (masu, or seema) tend to have large oval marks on the sides, which turn a vivid red color during the spawning time (hence the name) and black spots on the back above the lateral line, unlike the light back and red spots we see on this, which I still maintain is an amago. Check out Thomas Quinns book "the behavoir and ecology of Pacific Salmon and Trout." Page 18-19 have good pictures of Masu Salmon, which clearly are much different than the fish in the above picture. However, both these fish are very closely related. Quinn's book lists the Amago as O. rhodurus instead. It also mentions that there is some incongruency between scientists classifications of the Masu and Amago. Then again, we could be seeing some sort of hybrid...Maybe I will ask one of my Profs here at UW to shed some light on the subject...
     
  4. gordon

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  5. mr trout

    mr trout Trevor Hutton

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    fair enough!:thumb: :beer2:

    I suppose I could try to find out where it was caught too. That may be of some assistance.
     
  6. gordon

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    :beer2: to you too mr trout. if you could find out where it was taken that would help. amago are limited to a few areas. have a great day.
     
  7. Paul Huffman

    Paul Huffman Driven by irrational exuberance.

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    I like the ID of Amago now. I thought at first there were no black spots and the light spots on the dark background were all faded out in death except for the red spots. But there are some black spots visible back by the tail and those red spots are what you see in those landlocked masou.
     
  8. Rev Trout

    Rev Trout Rev Trout

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    Hey Trev,

    Most likley Kenshi got this fish in the Toyo River near Shishiro, it empties into the ocean at Toyohashi, about 20 miles from Shinshiro. Jun told me last spring that the goverment (or someone) planted some trout like fish in the Toyo River. Maybe next spring when I am there I'll take a rod and try it for fun.

    Joe
     
  9. Rialto

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    Regarding the camera used to take the photo. MS Office Picture Manager under "Properties" displays camera information for photos. In this case it was a Pentax Optio S5n.