JH Special?

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  1. kelvin

    kelvin Active Member

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    Mark can you post a picture?
     
  2. Jrthurm

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    I had a retired friend that fished out of South Fork Co for years. He would spend 4 months in summer at Rainbow Lodge. He got me into the JH Special. At the start we used them fishing high country lakes at night for cutthroat. Cutthroat never hit top water at night so we needed to sink the fly. We fished the lakes with a clear bubble and about 6' of leader. The fly would sink about 6" on a slow troll. Just had to watch not to snag a bear behind you on cast if you had fish on you. Best fishing in dark moon.
     
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    I understand it to have been made and invented by the father of a friend. I have a few here; some variations it seems.

    Mark, do you have a name of friend. I was told the name on several occasions but can't come up with it. Might recognize it if I heard it.
     
  4. Mark Smith

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    The last name was Bodo. He died some years back but lived in CO, NM, and AZ. The image below numbered 1 is what I understand to be the JH special. I also have a fly similar to the one posted earlier with a wing -- number 2 below.

    JH-special-1.jpg JH-special2.jpg
     
  5. Jrthurm

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    The pics I posted are the JH Special. Just bot some new ones in Creede about 2 weeks ago and caught several fish at Road Canyon Res on them as did the rest of my family and friends. Was using the black body fly. Only fly I could get a bite on. Never remember a Bodo name. The old man who tied our flies lived north of Del Norte Co. But you can get JH Special flies from Rainbow Grocery in South Fork, Co or the Ramble House in Creede Co.
     
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    Sure would like to know what that wing is - I got some of the flies from Rainbow Grocery and the wing has the coloration of Turkey, but is a much smaller, softer feather - anyone know what it could be?
     
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    I'm not sure either, but could be Quail or Dove. I have seen the wings be from grey to elk color and vaired in between. I will ask my brother as he used to try to tie them.
     
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    Gonna try them with pheasant wing quill - there are some on mine that look like they might be right. Be glad to hear what your brother uses.
     
  9. Richard Olmstead

    Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    I tied some with turkey, which looked to be the most likely feather based on the photo. I'd also be curious to know what you find out.
    Dick
     
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    Great thread! This reminds me of one of my favorite old school patterns, very similar to this, but with a few twists that I add in. I like the wing and will be adding it to my patterns, but also want to try these specific ones.

    I'm assuming the unweighted is fished as a dry? Is the weighted version dead drifted or swung like a wet? I could see it doing well either way.

    When fishing big stonefly or october caddis dries, I often get bites even when the fly has sunk subsurface, and is just dragging along (usually when I'm not paying attention or changing my footing). I could see the one version posted on post #18 working really well in similar situations. Also very similar to a small marabou muddler...

    Very cool. Thanks for the great thread.
     
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    They sell dries which have tails and fore and aft hackle with the little wing, then they sell beadheads, which also have fore and aft hackle, but some of them have the "aft" in the middle.
    Then they also have soft hackles in the same style. I think the turkey would be fine for the larger sizes, but the pheasant looks a little closer in the smaller sizes, except the store-bought flies are in a grayer color wing. I found some interesting "biot" feathers on the pheasant wings, too. Thinner than goose or turkey biots and speckled.
     
  12. Richard Olmstead

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    Thus far, I've only tied it as a wet fly for lake fishing. I intend to tie some variations of it as dry flies for next summer.

    Here's a pic of my version. I tied it on a size 10 2XL hook, with Grizzly hen hackle for tail and hackles, black rabbit dub for the section between the tail and rear hackle, peacock herl for the front body, turkey feather for wing, and with a dozen turns of lead wire under the body.

    JH Special wet fly 1.jpg
     
  13. Jrthurm

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    Good looking fly. The JHS we had tied used black or black/grey thread for the body. Body was not fuzzy but just wrapped thread. Flies 12 and above have no middle hackle, 10 and below generally have a middle hackle. Your wings look reall close if not right on.

    I use the weighted flies in high lakes. I fish those with a clear fillable 1oz bubble and 6' leader. The weighted fly sinks about 6" below water. Many lakes in the San Juan are not wadeable so we use light spinning gear and a slow troll.
     
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    Here's one of my renditions. I weighted this one slightly and intend to fish it swung or stripped. I added a bit of buck tail under the turkey.

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    Good lookin' fly.
    D