Just One Steelhead River

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by martyg, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. Tim Lockhart

    Tim Lockhart Active Member

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    Sloan you're right. That's my favorite place too. I've never been skunked on steelies there......But seriously, did you have to mention all the naked girls??....Now everyone is gonna show up!
     
  2. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Only in the mind of yard ;)

    BTW, hex is just more compact, so us more sophisticated monkeys can read shizzle faster....
     
  3. Mike Danahy

    Mike Danahy @#)$%# river otters!

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    iagree If ya put in your time, the rewards are infinitely greater, and numbers will mean much less than just being there. Hell, it took me two years to catch my first steelhead, and I can truly say that a bad day on the river is better than a great day anywhere else.
     
  4. Citori

    Citori Piscatorial Engineer

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  5. martyg

    martyg Active Member

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    OK - since I started all of this, I thought that I would share my favorite steelhead / salmon river...

    Directions:
    - Commercial flight to Puerto Monte, Chile.
    - Puddle jumper to Chaiten.
    - Drive east for 3 hours over dirt road / track to the East end of Lago Yelcho.

    Fish the mouth of the Futa and pay special attention to the river that enters on river L. Hike up it for one day, camp and start to fish your way down. Use big cone headed Wooly Buggers and Little Rainbow Trout streamers tied with weight with a short strip.

    Seriously though, if anyone wants to PM me about some small OP rivers that fish well after an hour hike up I would be all ears.

    Also note my posts in the Salt section. We don't have to share info, but I choose to do so in a spirit of cooperation. leaving details sufficiently vague.
     
  6. HauntedByWaters

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    BIG SECRET REAVEALED:

    I don't tell most people this but; my favorite steelhead river is the Skagit in spring C&R season.......SSSHHHHHHHH.....don't let anyone know........BIG SECRET!
     
  7. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    So who's to say that we aren't helping the new guy? I gave some useful info, and frankly some of the other answers came back telling him to focus on the journey, not the fish.

    Also, the question was a *very* vague one, and the answers were equally vague. I think the whole thing was poorly framed to begin with. For instance, what is more likely to get a good response?

    "What's a good river in 3 hours from Seattle"

    or

    "I'm new and don't really fish the rivers too much. Does anyone have the time to meet up on the Snoqualmie and show me some of the ropes?"

    I think that learning to frame the question to the intended audience is far more beneficial than just asking a blanket question.

    Also, one of the folks on the site Matt Burke as more than generously donated his time to get newbs on the rivers. Spending a bit of time to RTM usually reduces the amount of public ridcule you end up bearing.

    For what it's worth, I'm probably one of the biggest mooches on the site for fishing info. I just choose to try to talk to folks via PM or with more targeted questions. Sometimes I get a ration of shit, other times, I get really good help and meet some damn cool people.....

    -- Cheers
    -- James
     
  8. dude_1967

    dude_1967 Chris

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    "Because hex doesn't look like the mutha f$$kin matrix!"

    The binary was below the belt...
    Even the hex was too low-level for me.

    Chris
     
  9. Zen Piscator

    Zen Piscator Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.

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  10. Ian Broadie

    Ian Broadie Flyfishing is so "Metal"

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  11. otter

    otter Banned or Parked

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    "So much for the shared resource".

    You gotta problem with all the time and effort to learn your ground, and then sharing it with others?

    Or do you want to keep everybody else out, once you think you have yours.

    Just a question.

    otter
     
  12. g_smolt

    g_smolt Recreational User

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    If I found it, someone else could find it too.

    Kinda like a "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy...

    Mark
     
  13. Will Atlas

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    I agree with tomb and g_smolt on this one. Nothing against the guy who started this thread. Here's my thing, I dont mind giving a guy some direction on where to find fish, or even how to catch them but I dont think the internet is the place to it. after all we're mass communicating here and I dont know how responsible it is for the sake of a fishery to go blowing our loads on the internet about where and how to catch fish. I agree with Tom that there is a culture of shortcuts that is undermining the tradition and stewardship that is in our sport. Also, I dont think secrecy is a new thing to fishing, but the internet is. Ralph Wahl never told a soul (except close friends) about his favorite hole on the Skagit until long after it had been filled in by flood waters. My point is, we're all in the boat together. I'm not an old hand, I havent caught a million steelhead, but I've walked alot of river miles and found some sweet stuff/fish, and while I'm more than happy to talk about that face to face with another angler, the costs of helping someone I dont know out on the internet are too high. Just look how many people are viewing this thread right now. Probably more than there are wild steelhead in any of the S Rivers right now. Just a thought.
    Will

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  14. HauntedByWaters

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    INDEED!!!!! HERE HERE!!!!!! :thumb:

    I also want to add that we live in a culture today of instant proffensional gratification (which is on oxymoron). With all of these "pro" products and instant "guides" to knowing the know......This is all BS. Anyone who knows anything about something as complex as fly fishing knows that every body of water is different, every fish population different, EVERYTHING is different. It is all natural babay! That is what, as I can infer from this forum, we love about it. However, there is a new class of fly fisherman growing in numbers that comes to a forum like this only to know how to catch more bigger fish and know where the "hot spots" are. I am not making a generalization here about all of you, but these guys do exist. They care little about comradery, sportmanship, or anything that we put above "fishing by numbers". They essentially see fly fishing as a handicap so, for example, a steelhead caught on fly gear is bragging rights over a steelhead caught on bait and what not. They are very elitist in this sense and give fly fishermen a bad name. You can spot them, usually, wearing 3,000 dollars worth of gear, having no idea what the &$&#% they are doing.

    So anyways......my point is that, in agreement with some opinions above, even though fly fishing is a great sport, and those of us here truly embody its spirit, there are many in growing numbers who don't, and unfortunately the internet cannot scrutinize who reads what et cetera. I would rather get to know someone and understand how they value our fisheries and fly fishing heritage before I share anything really "special". I feel that fly fishing is a naturalist sport and it seems to be veering too far from that spirit these days. If the internet was there, 20 years ago, when there was a tiny portion of the fly fishermen that there are now, and those into it were almost entirely exceptional outdoorsmen, naturalists and enviromentalists, I would have had no problem spilling the beans.
     
  15. kamishak steve

    kamishak steve Active Member

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    I like the skykomish
    Try it out between sultan and monroe in the winter. There. Other people like the snoqualmie, other people like the green, and lots of people like the sauk and skagit. The sauk may be my favourite, but it goes out sometimes. the skagit is great, but big ,and if your a newb you will probably get skunked because you don't know how to read those big waters. some people like the pilchuck, on the other end of the spectrum from the skagit. None of thse are secrets, especially if you buy a gazeteer. That should be your first order of business, then start exploring those blue lines that connect to the ocean. Just pick the one closest to your house and start from there, the closer you are to home, the more you'll fish, then the better you'll get. Thats the best advice you're gonna get on this site.