"Legal" rod length?

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  1. pcknshvl

    pcknshvl Member

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    I picked this little nugget up out of the tedious "Steelies on the Yak" thread.... Basically, one poster said that spey rods are illegal on the Yak. I think he's confused or just misinformed.

    I have, upon occasion, used my 12' spey rod to swing sculpin patterns for trout, on the Yak, in the winter. I'm not targeting steelies. (I've actually had better luck with my 5wt single-hander and a sink tip, and I've never had an accidental steelhead catch.) As far as I know, it's perfectly legal to fish for trout this way. There's nothing in the current WDFW pamphlet that I saw regarding rod lengths, or fishing methods with rods (other than the "no snagging" rule).

    If anyone knows anything for certain about this, and can provide the WDFW reference, I'd appreciate it!

    Tom
     
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    pcknshvl Member

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    Okay, I'm something of an idiot....

    Bennysbuddy's statement starts: "Is it not legal to use a spey rod on the yak?", not "It is not legal to use...."

    Sorry, everyone, and Bennysbuddy.

    I like swinging streamers on the Yak, and my 12' rod makes it more efficient to do so.

    Tom
     
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    I find that you need a longer rod for cougars. Can't find anything about it in the regs.
     
  4. Rick Todd

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    At least a stiffer, faster action rod! Rick
     
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    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Yakima Cougars like a longer, stiffer and faster action rod? I'm so confused.
     
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    Ask the "authority having jurisdiction", meanig I think whoever patrols that area may answer that question better. When I had a similar question on a different river, I called Olympia and that was the answer I got. So I did, and I got my question answered.

    Took me a little time and effort, but better to find out now...than pay a hefty fine later. Personally I think you're ok. But if it is that important to you, get the answer from the "horse's mouth". It saved my butt.
     
  7. Upton O

    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    All of you old farts are dreaming about cougars, the only cougars you are eligible for are in their 80's.
     
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    Well...actually there are a lot in there 40's in bothell.
     
  9. Mike Lee

    Mike Lee It's all about the sauce.....

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    WOW! There's Cougar fishing in the Yak? That's amazing! Does one need to be able to swing with their long rod to be able to land one of these? Sounds like they live a long time too. I wonder how many beers it would take to have this mentality.......


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  11. Jim Kerr

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    It's true, I checked it out with fish and wildlife, same for the Hoh this winter. Rods over 10 ft will be illegal.
     
  12. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    I heard anybody over 50 is grandfathered in otherwise you can write to the df&w for a exception to the new rule for special cases.
     
  13. Jim Kerr

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    Oops, not everything I said in my last post was entirely accurate. The parts concerning the Hoh river, fly rod length and legality might have been somewhat incorrect. The rest is spot on.
     
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    While a flyrod might work under these conditions, one might favor a trolling rod. Of course, an unanswered question is what do you use at the end of the line. Would attractors be effective? If yes, which?

    Steve
     
  15. Mike Lee

    Mike Lee It's all about the sauce.....

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    Don't you want to land a fly cougar instead of a troll cougar? Attractors? Probably one of those Gwop rolls of ben-jamins with a trojan indicator.