Legitimate sale items...?

Discussion in 'Classifieds' started by Citori, Jul 23, 2007.

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  1. Citori

    Citori Piscatorial Engineer

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    I personally have never sold, and have had no negative buying experiences. My concern is the source of the sale items, and making sure they are not stolen property. If I were trying to turn fly fishing equipment into cash, I would make sure the sale went well...

    I like the suggestion of a feedback option - both for buyers and sellers. Personally, I won't consider buying from someone who has been on the board a short time, and also require at least a phone conversation. Good comments, good suggestions. Thanks for your responses.

    Chris, any thoughts about a feedback option?
     
  2. mozart

    mozart Chris

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    Good thread! I was actually thinking the same thing but neglected to post for some reason. I suggest using a feedback site, similar to the feedback style eBay uses called Heatware. I use it mostly for my computer needs but have an alias I use on VwVortex. The good thing about the site is you're able to add your different aliases that you use on separate forums. That way it shows you're not hiding anything and are straightforward on who you are. My feedback: http://heatware.com/eval.php?id=13753 Also, you have the ability to email the person through Heatware to see if the evaluations that they're posting are truly their own.

    I wouldn't suggest the use of a feedback type forum as after a while the amount of users for feedback can get quite large and quite often people can find it difficult to find a particular user. If a feedback type forum was initiated I would suggest that one or two people have access to edit the first post with the username and good or bad eval to it. Unless Chris wants to take up the burden of doing so. That way if an evaluation needs to be posted and the original poster is offline for quite some time, another user can add the evaluation. However, I don't know if it's possible with vBulletin. I could most certainly start a thread of that nature. I know I'm really new here but i've been buying, selling, and trading online since 2000 and i'm either online here at home or at work. Thank god this site isn't blocked there :D
     
  3. Wayne Kohan

    Wayne Kohan fish-ician

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    The problem with the feedback issue is that many of the people who sell things here don't sell on a regular basis. I am always suspicious of anyone with fewer than 10 posts who is selling. I've always wondered if the sellers should have to be regular posters, so that they are part of the community.

    Wayne
     
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    mozart Chris

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    Wayne,

    The only problem with that is a user can come into the site just to portray that image of being a responsible and upstanding person but turn on an instant. From my experience i've seen users go from a 2000 post user to a thief instantly. I guess what i'm trying to say is that post count and community enrollment shouldn't depict ones true nature. I don't see anyone here being a "Troll" since fly fishing is definitley an acquired taste but the only way to really tell is by their past transactions.

    On another site, it's usually customary for new users to send the item first without payment, kind of weird, I know, but if the buyer has a high feedback rating he/she won't be scared to send the goods first to a respected member with high feedback. It's different, but it works and has for many years on anandtech.com.
     
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    Ask for a copy of orginal reciept or paperwork. If it was very expensive and carried a lifetime warranty the orginal owner should have them. Talking to someone even on the phone can give you a feeling (good or bad) about someone, I seem to have good radar for flakes.
     
  6. Chris Scoones

    Chris Scoones Administrator Staff Member

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    Testing two options. Reputation info which you can add to and an infractions option. One allows you to leave user notes others can view. The other is based on infractions which I'm not sure about all it's functionality yet.

    Both options are now turned on, with the reputation icon being [​IMG] and the infractions link icon being [​IMG] located to the right on the user header info on their post.

    I may not impliment either, but am testing. Go ahead and play away. I'll likely start another thread to take feedback.

    Chris
     
  7. Citori

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    Thanks Chris. Responsible sellers/buyers will appreciate this opportunity.

    AM
     
  8. Riffling Hitch

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    Chris, I noticed everyone has an infraction icon but you? Administrative perk?:D
    Good luck with the new trials and can you explain how someones good or bad rep is displayed or viewed?

    thanks,
    Russell
     
  9. frankjpfish

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    I agree about having a feedback page. I am one of those out of staters, MICHIGAN. We have lots of salmon, steelhead and trout, so have a real need for the same items you guys do. I have purchased several items from members and have made a couple of good friends doing it. I don't have many postings as I use the site just for purchases, but really injoy reading the posts and for sale items. Don't automatically block us out because we are out of state or don't have alot of posts, Thanks !!!:thumb:
     
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    rainbow My name is Mark Oberg

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    Is there any way you can turn it on for buyer and seller's. That way we know the deadbeat buyers to. Like ebay kinda.
     
  11. Happy Gilmore

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    I'm curious if Citori has made online purchases before. Not looking to call him out in any way, I find majority of concern is with those that have not done it and addressed their questions. Questions are great and some fine answers. As with anything checking history and presence PLUS paying with a secure method I find key. Paypal's given me great leverage and given that I've never had to use that leverage against a seller. 400+ paypal transactions, 3/4 + business sales and many fun buys.

    For Gettn2's post, of all the fishing forums (6+) I may look at time to time, none have a feedback feature. One has a minimum posting before the buysell can be used (nice touch I though). I have seen enough immature behaviour and poor decisions on resolving unsatisfctory transactions by others that feedback functions on forums do concern me. I figure public callout once it's damn clear of evil intent and mod's informed cover this easily enough and is how I've seen it previously.

    If it's not linked to sales links is it valid ?? and as many here like to do, which I agree with and see on other boards - they delete FS threads when completed. Just some thoughts.
     
  12. Citori

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    Yep, I have purchased, and have no negative experiences to report. Based on the responses, it is a reasonable question to ask, which is why I posed it. No agenda other than to be a responsible forum member.
     
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    This is why I sell/buy through ebay.....so buyers can see my reputation and have a paypal guaruntee. Worth the fees to me. You get a higher sale price in the end because of a trust factor.
     
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    I just sold some reels here this week and I used my paypal account. It works well, you just go to paypal and send the purchaser an electronic bill via paypal's site. They go to paypal, pay the amount via any method they choose and then you ship the item once the payment has been verified by paypal. At least the buyer can know that you are verified by paypal and have the option to report to them if you try to screw them. Just a suggestion, maybe there are better ways as well.
     
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    Happy G ... I understand that there are pros and cons to the feedback system. You cannot please all the people all the time and people will take advantage of any system. I have over 900 pos feedbacks on ebay and have been using paypal for over 5 yrs. The thing that I see is that with the birth of Craigslist and such like it seems the scammers are breeding. I just ask a simple question the other day about a Winston spey on CL. The guy called me a moron, idiot, etc. The only reason I asked the question was to see if the rod really existed, and if people on CL won't give info about an item for sale ... I won't buy it. I have sold antiquarian books for years, and when you deal in items from the 17th century and have to build a client relationship, I just see the advantages of leaving a quick little note that the seller was great to deal with. I just purchased three XP's from members of this forum, two from BDD and another from Speir61, both members were great to deal with and Speir61 even personalized the rod for me. I had zero issues and I think other members should know that ... and even if I am from Idaho I did pay for the items. :)
     
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