Discussion in 'Bamboo, Fiberglass & Classic Reels' started by Mark Walker, Nov 5, 2008.
Thanks again TC. I'll research those.
Fellow WFFer flyman216 built a blonde 7' 2/1 last winter based on the Sir D taper. While I had admired its clean build and cosmetics then, it wasn't until last week that I had a chance to fish it for a half hour at a tree farm lake. The rod casts like a rocket compared with my other cane rods. It's maker is exploring a similar Cattanach taper, but in a 3-piece 7-1/2' configuration. I can't wait to fish it.
BTW, flyman's rod balanced right behind the winding check with an Orvis BBSII reel, so I don't think you need a particularly heavy reel as with some other, longer cane rods.
I recall reading that the Sir-D taper was actually named twice: once by Wayne Cattanach for a gentleman he met on the river who inspired him to create the taper, and then by some guys on the Rodmakers e-mail List after Daryl Hayashida. Daryl Hayashida was a very creative and innovative California rodmaker, who unfortunately passed away last year.
Daryl's version adds .002" to the tip, 5" and 10" stations. I always make one tip using Wayne's taper and one tip using Daryl's. I'll admit that I can't tell the difference
A lot of rodmakers recommend this as a good first bamboo rod for folks who learned to cast with fast action graphite rods. At 7', it's a great rod for small streams - very accurate and easy to cast close in, but enough backbone to reach out 40-50'. It's also a fun rod to cast on the front lawn in the summer.
Just to be safe, I recommend you try reels to make sure they fit the reel seat. Some of the classier looking reel seats are specifically designed for the thinner feet on machined reels. Reels like Pfleuger Medalists or the older Hardy Viscounts won't fit.
Dang, you guys are really making me want to get my first boo rod! I've cast a few of the high end ones over the past few years from Bob Clay(SH and DH), the Sweetgrass guys, Winston's and I believe an Orvis rod that Kent owns. All are different and incredibly fun to cast!
Visiting the Sweetgrass guys in Twin was awesome and I almost put an order in, before the reality of the prices set in... I got to see the build process and how much time and care goes into a work of art like they produce!
So if you were looking for a first boo rod, say in the $400 - $500 range and mostly likely a 7 1/2" 4wt or 5wt what would you look for? This would be a rod mainly for fishing dries - "Dry fly or die"!
I looked around on Ebay recently and there were some Zhus rods, very cheap, between $100 - $150, but they are made and shipped from China and I'm not sure about sending a payment over there directly. Cabelas has Highland Mills rods that look interesting, but I don't know how they cast.
I have a few sites that I have checked out, but there are so many different options.
Currently planning to pair this rod with a Nautilus FW 3+. (4oz.) I could use an Albright GPX 3/4 but it's heavier (6.1oz.). Opinions on using either reels loaded with 444 Sylk or Sharkskin? (Floating DT). I know the cost ratio is approx. double. Does the difference merit the expense? I haven't used either lines to date.
Many thanks to all for your informative posts. The bamboo aspect is new to me and I appreciate everyones input.
FDC, I thought bamboo was used to cane criminals in the far east. As for a fishing tool, I'm too inexperienced to know. I've never used 444 Sylk but I do have a sharkskin floating on four of my primary setups plus another one ready to rig. Many who fish near me inquire about the noise, what noise? That splashy flippy jumpy noise, oh, that is just the fish stretching my line! Sharkskin may sound funny, but believe me, it makes my casting reach much farther. I can only imagine what it could be if I ever break down and get some professional casting instruction. Good luck.
I thought I would submit these for your perusal.
Crap! Disregard the first two. Wrong rod. These are the correct two.
Looks a lot like my 6'9" 3wt. You'll be quite happy with the way it fishes. More than happy when the rod comes to life with a fish on. Definately he's one of the better bargains for bamboo.
No kidding! Here's some shots of a 21" holdover rainbow I caught on my little Orvis Seven/Three 7' 3wt last week at lowland lake. Although the little rod tacoed, it held firm along with my 5x tippet as 'bowzilla' posed for a brief stripping apron portrait.
That's a gorgeous rod! The look on Kent's face after landing that big rainbow with his 7/3 is priceless!
Flybill, a really nice 7-1/2' 5wt. dry fly rod is the South Bend 290. I sold mine a few years ago, but really liked it. These pop up on e-bay periodically, and you can buy one in fishable condition for $200-400. Also look for higher grade production rods like Orvis, Granger, and Phillipson.
Kent, nice series of pic's there! The look on your face says "this is why we do what we do"!
Thanks for the info Tom! I'll start keeping an eye out for those rods, particularily the South Bend 290. I cast one of Kent's Orvis rods and it was sweet, but in a higher price range.
Ya the 73 is an awsum boo. To the one who was looking for a first good boo rod. I would suggest a 7-7'6 orvis as a good first rod. I took my Lenard 3wt out last year and caught some hold overs with it. Scared the crap out of me but it was awsum. The sad part was that It was a Lenard company employee rod, and I didn't know till later. Haven't fished it since.
Parks makes a fishable rod. But his finishes are not the best. If your looking to get into the bamboo rod world Parks is a reasonable choice that will not break your wallet. He does stand behide his work. I had an 8'6" 5wt. that cast well but was not the straightest. Again, the dollars are right for an entry level cane rod. Hope this helps.
Best, Mark K.