Lines for E.WA lakes?

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  1. Scott Salzer

    Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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  2. Rick Todd

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    I read the book and promptly ordered a SA Type V line! That was before I saw the post on the new Rio line! Thinking of breaking it in at Pass soon! Rick
     
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    Saturday forecast is looking good...;)
     
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    I have a dinner that night, but I think that would work for me. It gets dark early enough that I can fish most of the day anyway. Lets try for that. Rick
     
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    Scott, Susie ordered that book for me today, she found it on my wish list at Amazon and made my wish come true. I am anxious to read Tim's book to see what his take on fast sinking lines is. I have been a fast sink advocate for decades now, my first was a Hi_Speed/Hi-D line bought back in the '80's. I am a little surprised that so many guys have been late to the full sink party. There are just times and places where a mere intermediate is never going to get it done. In some of the deep desert lakes I start out with a Deep7 nowadays and work up rather than start with a slow sinker and work down. It's hard to argue with success.

    Ive
     
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    Thanks everyone. Some great advice. Sounds like I need to figure out how to attach an extra rod to my float tube. Also bought the book Scott recommended. I picked up the Lake Fly Fishing Manifesto (http://www.amazon.com/Lake-Fly-Fishing-Manifesto-Mike-Croft/dp/1571884106) last year at the FFF in Spokane. Very similar to the original manifesto, fun with lots of good hints.
     
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    I use a Type VI on most trips, unless I am really fishing shallow. You'll get some good info from the book.

    Scott
     
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    I just received my copy and am reading it. Very well thought-out and written! The original articles convinced me to buy a type V sinker and I'm really enjoying reviewing the good information.
     
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    If the goal is to get to the bottom, why not go with a Type VII, rather than a V or a VI, so you get there faster?

    Cheers,
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    Depends where the bottom is (depth) and your approach to fishing deep. I'm comfortable casting and stripping bugs down to 15' or so and my type V gets it done in that zone. If I need to go deeper than that, I rely on electronics to find specific features in the lake that may be holding fish and then target them with a vertical presentation. Again, my type V gets it done. Others play the game differently and wouldn't be without a type VI or VII.
     
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    Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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    BT - Most of the basin lakes aren't that deep. Fishing a Type VII would not allow you to hit the shallower areas, shoals - drop offs. A little patience and at Type IV / V would work well.

    Not sure what lakes you are fishing out of PTL.
     
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    So, when fishing a sinking line, say a Type IV or heavier, are you fishing it "on the drop" with a retrieve so that it really doesn't get to the bottom, or letting it get to the bottom and then retrieving it (or both)?

    If the latter, it would seem beneficial to have it get there ASAP, even it was in shallow water.

    If the former, I can see why having it get to the bottom too fast (i.e. in shallow water), would thus shorten the "drop time" and the retrieve time.

    Cheers,

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    Getting your fly line "on the bottom" is often a recipe for fouled flies at the least and hopelessly snagged up in stumps/boulders at the worst. There are exceptions but generally the trick with choosing a sinking line is matching the sink rate to reaching the depth you want to pull your flies through. That can can be anywhere from just off the bottom to just under the surface. You can count down from when the line starts to sink to when it's getting close to your target zone. It's pretty common to gauge whether you are getting near the bottom by the amount of weeds/leaves/sticks that come back on your fly at the end of the retrieve. Another use for a fast sinking line is hanging it straight down from the boat. In that case minimizing the "drop time" makes sense.
     
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    have used a floater/type 3/type 5 or 6 for years. but you guys got me thinking about the Intermediate line.