Lost my cool on a beach today

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by Ed Call, May 30, 2009.

  1. Bob Balder

    Bob Balder Willing to learn anything...

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    :thumb:Nice job Mr. Call!
    I am not certain that I would have acted as you did, I am just too old and slow, but that's about the only reason, oh yeah...bridge work.
    In any event good on ya, I am willing to bet that this guy will think twice before he goes dragging his hardware across a beach without knowing where he is and what the regs are.
    I guarantee he will be looking over his shoulder.
    I believe that you likely made an impression on him, he will certainly tell this story over a beer many more times than you will.:beer2:
     
  2. Jim Ficklin

    Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    Losing it happens . . . in this case, it sounds as if righteous indignation emphatically exercised may have served to educate the fella. If not, at the very least he departed before he could harm another cuttie. You did well . . . don't feel bad about it. I took some pix a few weeks back of 2 guys filling trout limits for 6 or 7 kids (kids weren't fishing, just the adults.). I politely informed them of the rules, they told me to "F-off" & asked what I was going to do about it. I told them I had already e-mailed the pix to the warden (a premature white lie, tho I did send them from home later.). One started toward me & threatened me. I told him . . . "This would be your second mistake of the day. If your goal is to be embarrassed in front of your kids, well, you just jump right on in." They left & I captured a nice close-up of the vehicle & license plate, which also went to the warden. While I don't suggest folks place themselves in harm's way, with the budget cuts debilitating enforcement coverage, it is important that we do whatever we are comfortable doing to safeguard those resources near & dear to us. Cameras & cell phones are great tools.
     
  3. Mark Walker

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    Damn Ed, way to go!
    He probably left to give Bigfoot your license plate number.
     
  4. Salmo_g

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    Actions speak louder than words. Whatever you said didn't mean as much as what you did by demonstrating how SRC are to be handled, or rather, not handled under the CNR regs. Your quick decisive action is the polar opposite of losing your cool.

    Cool Hand Mumbles. I'd fish with ya'.

    Sg
     
  5. Wollybooger

    Wollybooger New Member

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    Though I disagree with dragging SRC around with meatsticks, not everyone is a conscientious fisherman/woman.

    BUT, what you did is rediculous!

    There are lots of reasonable avenues for promoting the protection of our resources. Calling someone names and turning a fishing trip into Ultimate Figher Challenge is just wierd! If you couldn't bear the thought of going to a different beach, then you could have simply told the guy he should have more respect for the fishery.
     
  6. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks for all the kind words from those willing to support the conservation and protection of the SRC. Not really sure I'm proud of my reactionary results yesterday, but the fish swam off seemingly fine and no blows were thrown. Not sure it was the smartest thing to do, or that I'd react the same again next time, but what is done is done.

    Wollybooger, generally after someone's first post I offer greetings. I'll keep that consistent here. Welcome to the forum. Nice to see you disagree with my actions, discussions often are better with opposing views. I could have fished another beach seeing this guy down there. I had no problem sharing that stretch of sand and gravel, but I did have a problem with what I saw him doing. He likely had a problem with what he saw me doing too.

    By the way, did we meet yesterday under tense circumstances and would you like your pixie spoon back? Serisoulsy though, perhaps some day you and I will share a beach, maybe even a beer. You'll realize I'm not a dick hell bent on ruining someone elses time on the beach. I'll be the guy who is looking an awful lot like my avatar...and you note my real name is there too.

    http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/board/showthread.php?t=20534&highlight=mouth
     
  7. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    Ed, you did the right thing. Sometimes that's better than worrying about disturbing the "harmony"...
     
  8. Jim Ficklin

    Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    Always the gentleman (well, most of the time, lol, and I for one support your action.), Ed. I'm looking forward to meeting you. Hindsight affords a variety of options; unfortunately, the cuttie would have died and the gent that abused him would have missed-out on a sorely-needed education that obviously left an impression (hence his swift departure). We'll tag-team . . . hell, if we were to whip-off our hats in unison on a sunny day, we could blind a battalion . . . solar defense?
     
  9. Matthew Gulbranson

    Matthew Gulbranson Resident Swinger

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    Nice Ed!! Thanks for taking a stand. I think there is a difference between reacting to something you feel passionate about and just getting angry because of your own personal issues. I just hope he learned something in the process. If we don't take a stand with folks that don't give a rat's ass about this precious resource, then there will be a lot more of that kind of activity. Maybe next time he'll think twice.

    Next beer is on me :beer2:

    Cheers,

    Matthew
     
  10. dryflylarry

    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Hey Ed, your the man! I don't know if I would be brave enough to do that. There seem to be a few extra whacko's around these days. Be careful.

    By the way, %$#&*@#%$ lake was fishing like crap Saturday anyway. You didn't miss a thing. :)
     
  11. Chester Allen

    Chester Allen Fishing addict and scribbler

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    Ed,
    Protecting our fish is really up to all of us, and you did the right thing by taking that fish down to the water and helping it as much as you could. A lot of wingnuts don't realize how delicate our sea-run fishery really is. And quite a few more don't see anything wrong with keeping fish and breaking the law.
    Fish and Wildlife enforcement officers do their best, but there are fewer of them than 20 years ago -- and there are a lot more of us.
    So, good for you.
    I was doing a story on the Skokomish River summer chinook fishery a couple of years ago, and a guy got mad at me because I told him the limit was one fish -- and he already had one stashed in the cooler in his truck. This guy threatened me with an epic ass-kicking. The Skok is a combat fishery, and there were a lot of people there.
    I told him that I didn't fish the river, but I did care about the fish. I asked him why he thought it was OK to break the law. Then I told him to go for it -- but to be ready to go home with some damage -- win or lose. And then he could expect a visit from the cops -- and a letter from my lawyer.
    I was pretty hot at this point, and he just walked off. I haven't been in a fight since university days, and I was a little shook up for the rest of the afternoon. I hated how I felt afterwards, but I would have hated not saying anything....
    My great uncle A.O. Hill always told me that fishing and hunting showed the real person faster than just about anything else....
     
  12. Jeff Peacock

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    Good on ya Ed.
    Just glad the bozo didn't thump you when you bent over tending to your little friend :eek:
     
  13. MasterAnglerTaylor

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    Gosh Ed why did you yell at me yesterday?
     
  14. uncoolperson

    uncoolperson *splash* *splash* *splash*, I need a life vest

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    I'd remove this thread if I were you, with the right complaint you could find yourself on the wrong end of the law.

    although I know nothing of the SRC regs, the right attorney could probably hurt you with http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.210

    again, I know nothing of SRC laws or regs pertaining to where you are, so maybe you'd be covered under 3 (a) or (b). Though 4 could probably still hurt.... I'd say play it safe and press delete.

    Wish I had lost the spoon, the collection is kinda low... offer it up to a part-time gear guy?


    crazy gun dude in me says don't try this.
    you just proved that you're willing to break the law (atleast from that person's point of view) over something like fishing.
    you were probably just a touch visibly irritated
    maybe someone that isn't an armchair lawyer (won't ever claim to know law that well) would chime in, but I'd say a jury would agree with him if he'd have drawn a firearm on you.
     
  15. Brian James

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    Good on ya Ed. Saint and saviour. I admire your actions.

    uncool: I think you missed the point. And if I was on a jury and was told this story I certainly would side with Ed.