SBS Madam X SBS

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  1. ScottP

    ScottP Active Member

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    Don't use these as much any more because they get chewed up pretty quickly, although mangled sinkers work just about as well as fresh ones. Anyway, I'm getting too lazy to change flies all the time so I use more stuff with foam. Even though they've been around for a while, they're still effective and fun to tie. I put the head in first, like my bullet-head hoppers; makes it much easier for me to get the head/body transition point correct. 4 materials including hook and thread (I've seen them with dubbed bodies but I'm going for a minimalist look here) - that's a winner.



    hook - Dai Riki 280 #8
    thread - Danville Flymaster Plus yellow
    Tail/body - elk or deer hair (cow elk here)
    head- same as tail, semi bullet-head
    legs - rubber medium yellow


    Mash down barb and attach thread at head (gap width)

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    cut a clump of elk hair; clean, stack and measure for length (shank + gap)

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    trim to length, hold clump on top of hook

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    2 soft loops right behind hook eye; pull tight but don't let hair spin

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    lash stub ends of hair down, try to create a smooth thread head; a little Crazy Glue doesn't hurt here

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    cover hook shank with thread (makes it easier to control body torque)

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    cut another clump of elk hair; clean, stack and measure for length (shank + gap - head)

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    2 soft loops at back side of head; hair will roll somewhat around body, that's fine

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    wrap back to create 1st segment, crossing over top of body, if possible

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    2nd segment

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    and third back at a spot above hook barb

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    return to initial body tie-in point, maintaining segmentation, and smooth butts; as it turned out, the Flymaster thread's a bit thick, I probably could have used UTC 140

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    pull hair at head up

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    and back over top

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    a few firm wraps to create head; if you measured everything properly, wing and tail should be about the same length (looks like the blind squirrel hit an acorn here)

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    add leg near

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    and far

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    whip finish, brush with Sally, trim legs to length and you're done

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    Regards,
    Scott
     
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  2. Richard Olmstead

    Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    Scott -
    That's a nice simple madame X. I like it.

    I like the Madame X for rough water and as a hopper pattern. I've been tying them parachute style and with a dubbed body and are more work than I usually like to put into one fly. I think I need to get back to the basics.

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  3. GAT

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    I forgot about that guy... I need to tie some up. They worked really well on the main Umpqua for the smallmouth bass. They also worked really well on The Lochsa for cutthroat when I tied them with a Royal Coachman body of peacock, red floss, peacock... but only after they sunk and I let the pattern hang below me in the current! I've never figured that one out.

    Good. Another pattern to tie over the winter. Great job.
     
  4. David Washington

    David Washington New Member

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    Sounds like a nice tie, but pix don't show up. Any way to repost this with images or attach a PDF?
    Thx,
    David - Dallas
     
  5. ScottP

    ScottP Active Member

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    David,

    When PhotoBucket changed their policy about 3rd party websites (like WFF) posting pics, a lot of the early SBSs I put out can no longer be viewed. I'd have to re-load the pics onto Flikr and then re-link each one as well; I did a few but found out what a real hassle it is and I don't care to go thru it any more.

    Sorry,
    Scott
     
  6. David Washington

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    I can imagine what a pain that would be. Would an attached PDF of numbered images be easier? I would offer my services. I would just have to spend some time improving my web skills.
    David - Dallas
     
  7. Philonius

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    Semi-serious here..... maybe WFF (as a site or individual members) could pony up the GD money that GD photobucket wants for an account upgrade for Scott. The content he's generated here over time has incalculable value.
     
  8. David Washington

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    Good idea. I'm in for some of it. What would it cost?
     
  9. ScottP

    ScottP Active Member

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    All,

    I appreciate the thought, but no way will I pay, or allow to be paid, the ridiculous prices that PeeBucket is now charging to allow the 3rd Party option. I didn't mind the extra cost when I started pushing the bandwidth restrictions on my basic service years ago, but they're way out of line now.

    Regards,
    Scott