Methow Shutdown

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by jason.allen, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. Evan Burck

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    This is my first trip not seeing a WDFW presence.
     
  2. CLO

    CLO Future WFF Mod

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    enforcement presence or creel counter presence?
     
  3. Freestone

    Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

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    I think that you'd have to convince the Colville's to require the net pen operator, Pacific Aquaculture, to clip the fish. Since selling these triploids as "Columbia River Steelhead" to unsuspecting restaurants and grocery stores is big business for their parent company, Pacific Seafood, so I highly doubt that they will want to do anything to cause doubt about what these zombies really are. I know that restaurants and fish markets I've talked to had no idea they were selling net pen raised triploid rainbows. And, unfortunately there is no law (that I can find) that prohibits them from 'mislabeling' the triploid rainbows as steelhead.

    http://www.pacseafood.com/default.aspx?page=399
     
  4. Evan Burck

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    Either one. I've had my license/barbs checked several times by enforcement.
     
  5. CLO

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    That's good news.
     
  6. Yard Sale

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    So because I fish the Klick I need to learn all the crazy rules you guys have to follow?

    Agreed about losing the license for violations. Doesn't that already happen?
     
  7. Evan Burck

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    Considering that I have friends who have witnessed guys bonk native steelhead on the Klick, I think anyone targeting our native anadramous fishes in this state should have to pass some kind of class to partake in the resource. You have to do it for hunting... why not fishing?
     
  8. jake-e-boy

    jake-e-boy sans caféine

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    and people still poach wild game, but I'm sure it is at a smaller rate compared to if people did not have to pass the hunter education class. This is a solid idea
     
  9. Yard Sale

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    My point is there is a big difference between knowing the general regs for the region and knowing all the regs for the entire watershed.

    Hunters take a safety class. Tough to kill somebody with a fishing pole, or is that the reasoning behind the new barbless rule!
     
  10. Evan Burck

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    My experience with the hunter education course is that it was about half safety, half resource stewardship, species identification, and management. Cut out the safety portion, and teach anglers the rest.
     
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    golfman44 5-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year

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    Doesn't really matter how educated people are they will still do dumb shit.

    All that money to host classes would be served just fine spent on other means to promote natives
     
  12. Evan Burck

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    You're never going to eliminate maliciousness. You can really put a dent in ignorance, however.
     
  13. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Yeah, hunters was a long time ago for me, but safety was just part of it. I think angling classes could be very useful. Do it like hunters Ed...one time requirement to get a license. Cover stuff like general rules, where to find updated information, etc.

    Not perfect, but why not?
     
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    And how do you pay for this? Less wardens? Increased fees?

    How many poachers are just clueless vs knowingly poaching?

    I like the idea but the logistics are a nightmare. Whatever test you ran would only be applicable to the entire state. You couldn't even say don't kill wild fish because you can do that on some waters.

    I'd rather see that same money invested in enforcement.
     
  15. Evan Burck

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    It's a pay to play system: The user pays for their attendance in the class. Have it be taught by volunteers. I don't see where this mountains of expense would come from as it would likely be all classroom stuff.


    Right. And the idea is to educate them on this and why it's okay in some places, and not on others.