Methow Shutdown

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by jason.allen, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Charge for it.

    I don't think the class would be difficult.
     
  2. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    Really... one or two sessions of an hour or two a piece could cover a lot of material. Have them take a basic test, and be done with it. Finding volunteers to do this once a month or so wouldn't be remarkably difficult. I'd gladly give my time to such a cause.
     
  3. Yard Sale

    Yard Sale Huge Member

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    I'm on your side with this one guys, just playing devils advocate.

    Can't do a classroom for out of state anglers.

    How much of a hunting license, which is much higher than angling, is because of the classes?

    How many of the clueless fisherfolks would just not get a license? Of that number how many of them actually catch salmon/steelhead still not knowing the rules?
     
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    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    We live in the internet age. I took a very, very long, involved online class for my boater education certification/license. Something like this could be easily set up in this case for both in/out of state anglers. Spend 2hrs doing an online course with a few videos and quizes, then print out your verification and go to the local hardware store and buy your license.


    None of it, I imagine. I had to pay for my hunter education course when I took it in 1995.

    Tough to say. How many don't purchase licenses now? I imagine the number would be high at first, but would normalize over time. It's just like the boating certification... Many didn't get it, and got screwed when they tried to launch at popular Puget Sound boat launches this season on a few occasions. Do that with fishing, and over time, people will just do it.
     
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  5. golfman44

    golfman44 4-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year

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    Just curious, how many native steelhead do you guys honestly think (just guess) are killed due to anglers not following the regs/proper guidelines etc. each year on the methow?
     
  6. Evan Burck

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    Not going to touch that one with a 10' pole.... There's always some mortality, intentional and not. Given that I've never seen a native fish even so much as caught/handled by another party on this river, I have no data to go from.
     
  7. Freestone

    Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

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    My suggestion was not about a class for getting a license, it was for a class about the Columbia River Endorsement: why it exists, what it does, what special rules may be in place/area and why, how to check rules, etc. This class wouldn't just apply to steelhead anglers but it is equally important to other anglers, for instance, bass anglers on the lower Columbia who can't understand/don't agree with not being able to use 2 barbed treble hooks on their Wiggle Warts when Endangered Chinook are coming in, etc. (and, yes, that was a real example that I had to argue during a WDFW Advisory Group meeting) A little education and understanding can sometimes do a lot to increase compliance with the various rules throughout the system, for all species and all anglers, not just fly guys on the UC.

    And a 'class' doesn't have to mean 'classroom' as the wonderful thing called the Internet makes distance learning/online classes possible, even for out-of-state people.
     
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  8. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Sounds like a rule proposal to me :)
     
  9. Evan Burck

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    I've been thinking about it for the past couple years. I seem to be the loudest voice for it here on WFF as we go through this debate about a class every year. I may just go for it.
     
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  10. golfman44

    golfman44 4-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year

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    So its probably at most 200 or so killed??
     
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    I don't know if the exact number can really be known.
     
  12. Yard Sale

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    So what is covered specifically for the Columbia endorsement? Barbless hooks aaaaaand?

    Now you are talking the same cost but only for a small area.

    Classroom wasn't my idea but websites, especially ones like that aren't cheap. Evan, you would know more about than I would. How much does something like the boaters pass site cost?
     
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    golfman44 4-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year

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    Well we saw the government just drop 300+million on the healthcare sites and look what that got us
     
  14. Evan Burck

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    A site like that wouldn't cost much at all to host. Probably in the hundreds of dollars per month range. Depends on how much of the content was photo/video. But you can easily host those on other servers like youtube and get around that. Otherwise, a user database and the course content is all you're really storing/sending.
     
  15. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    I'll chime in to, and try to round up support. I'd be all in. I'm even literate and stuff :)
     
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