Montana's stream access law under fire!! Help is needed! No on HB309!

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  1. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Email sent to Jent and Lake...anyone else to contact?
     
  2. bconrad

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    Hey is there any chance of setting up a votervoice type deal? Give us a chance to click a couple buttons and they'll likely hear from a lot more people. Might be too late in the game though?
     
  3. Builder

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    Thanks for posting this Rick. It is a horrible bill and there is hope the Gov will veto it if passed. I'll work on it this weekend. I know Shockley and will call him and insist that he vote for all Montanans and not for the few large landowners that we have been fighting for years.
     
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    JIM SHOCKLEY (R) SD 45. Address PO BOX 608. VICTOR, MT 59875-0608 (406)642-3817 (406)642-3817.
     
  5. Builder

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    I'm running out the door but here are some links to the Montana Senate. Most Republican's need to be told that fisherfolks all over the world spend tons of cash in Montana BECAUSE Montana has the most reasonable access laws in the nation.
    2011 Montana Senate (sorted by Senate District)



    SD 01: Chas Vincent (R)
34 Paul Bunyan Lane
Libby, MT 59923


    293-3839 / Cvvincent@hotmail.com

    SD 02: Ryan Zinke (R)
409 West 2nd Street
Whitefish, MT 59937


    862-0823 / Ryanzinke@yahoo.com

    SD 03: Bruce Tutvedt (R)
2335 West Valley Drive
Kalispell, MT 59901


    257-9732 / Tutvedt@montanasky.us

    SD 04: Jon Sonju (R)
PO Box 2954
Kalispell, MT 59903


    270-7113 / Sonjumt@yahoo.com

    SD 05: Verdell Jackson (R)
555 Wagner Ln
Kalispell, MT 59901


    756-8344 / vjack@centurytel.net

    SD 06: Carmine Mowbray (R)
PO Box 1202
Polson, MT 59860


    883-4677 / clarity@cyberport.net

    SD 07: Greg Hinkle (R)
5 Gable Road
Thompson Falls, MT 59873


    827-4645 / ccwhi@blackfoot.net

    SD 08: Shannon Augare (D)
PO Box 2031
Browning, MT 59417


    450-0020 / Shannonjaugare@aol.com

    SD 09: Rick Ripley (R)
8920 Highway 200
Wolf Creek, MT 59648


    Ripleys@3rivers.net

    SD 10: Bradley Hamlett (D)
PO Box 49 
Cascade, MT 59421


    264-5885 / Wranglergallery@hotmail.com

    SD 11: Anders Blewett (D)
PO Box 2807
Great Falls, MT 59403


    231-8618 / Anders.blewett@gmail.com

    SD 12: Mitch Tropila (D)
PO Box 929
Great Falls, MT 59403


    899-3474 / tropila@mt.net

    SD 13: Edward Buttrey (R)
27 Granite Hill Lane
Great Falls, MT 59405


    250-5103 / ebuttrey@cteq.com

    SD 14: Llew Jones (R)
1102 4th Avenue South West
Conrad, MT 59425


    271-3104 / Lcjones@3rivers.net

    SD 15: Jim Peterson (R)
1250 Buffalo Canyon Road
Buffalo, MT 59418


    374-2277 / jpranch@ttc-cmc.net

    SD 16: Jonathan Windy Boy (D)
Box 269
Box Elder, MT 59521


    395-4718 / Windyboy_j@yahoo.com

    SD 17: Rowlie Hutton (R)
2 Lila Drive
Havre, MT 59501


    hutton4senate@yahoo.com

    SD 18: John Brenden (R)
PO Box 970
Scobey, MT 59263


    783-5394 / senatorbrenden@gmail.com

    SD 19: Donald Steinbeisser (R)
11918 County Road 348
Sidney, MT 59270


    433-2187 / Donstein@midrivers.com

    SD 20: Frederick Moore (R)
487 Signal Butte Road
Miles City, MT 59301


    234-3562 / elmoore@midrivers.com

    SD 21: Sharon Peregoy (D)
PO Box 211
Crow Agency, MT 59022


    639-2198 / apsaalookewoman@yahoo.com

    SD 22: Taylor Brown (R)
775 Squaw Creek Road
Huntley, MT 59037


    348-2070 / Taylor@northernbroadcasting.com

    SD 23: Alan Olson (R)
18 Halfbreed Creek Rd
Roundup, MT 59072


    323-3341 / Ajolson@midrivers.com

    SD 24: Kim Gillan (D)
750 Judicial Avenue
Billings, MT 59105


    248-6063 / Glonky@aol.com

    SD 25: Kendall Van Dyk (D)
PO Box 441
Billings, MT 59103


    690-1728 / Kendallvandyk@gmail.com

    SD 26: Lynda Moss (D)
552 Highland Park Drive
Billings, MT

    59102
252-7318 / Lyndamoss@imt.net

    SD 27: Gary Branae (D)
415 Yellowstone Avenue
Billings, MT 59101


    245-2127 / Garybranae@gmail.com

    SD 28: Jeff Essmann (R)
2101 Grand Ave #5
Billings, MT 59108


    259-8404 / Jeff@jeffessmann.com

    SD 29: Edward Walker (R)
4221 Rimrock Road
Billings, MT 59106


    697-6967 / ewalker@edwalker2010.com

    SD 30: Jason Priest (R)
PO Box 743
Red Lodge, MT 59068


    425-0674 / jason@priest2010.com

    SD 31: Ron Arthun (R)
285 Shields River Road
Wilsall, MT 59086


    578-2340 / ronarthun@gmail.com

    SD 32: Larry Jent (D)
506 East Babcock
Bozeman, MT 59715


    587-1210 / larry@imt.net

    SD 33: Bob Hawks (D)
703 West Koch Street
Bozeman, MT 59715


    587-1403 / R_hawks@imt.net

    SD 34: Joe Balyeat (R)
6909 Rising Eagle Road
Bozeman, MT 59715


    539-5547 / Joebalyeat@yahoo.com

    SD 35: Art Wittich (R)
3116 Sourdough Road
Bozeman, MT 59715


    585-7418 / art@wittich4senate.com

    SD 36: Debby Barrett (R)
18580 Highway 324
Dillon, MT 59725


    681-3177 / Grt3177@smtel.com

    SD 37: Steven Gallus (D)
2319 Harvard Avenue
Butte, MT 59701


    494-3914 / Steve.gallus@gmail.com

    SD 38: Jim Keane (D)
2131 Wall Street
Butte, MT 59701


    723-8378

    SD 39: Terry Murphy (R)
893 Boulder Cut Off Road
Cardwell, MT 59721


    285-6937 / murphter5@yahoo.com

    SD 40: Mary Caferro (D)
PO Box 1036
Helena, MT 59624


    443-4066 / Marycaferro@gmail.com

    SD 41: Christine Kaufmann (D)
PO Box 1566
Helena, MT 59624


    439-0256 / Kaufmann@mt.net

    SD 42: Dave Lewis (R)
5871 Collins Rd
Helena, MT 59602


    458-5511 / Davelewisd@aol.com

    SD 43: Gene Vuckovich (D)
1205 West Third Street
Anaconda, MT 59711


    563-2313 / genev@q.com

    SD 44: Bob Lake (R)
PO Box 2096
Hamilton, MT 59840


    363-4091 / Lakemill@montana.com

    SD 45: Jim Shockley (R)
PO Box 608
Victor, MT 59875


    642-6647

    SD 46: Carol Williams (D)
3533 Lincoln Hills Point
Missoula, MT 59802


    728-8735 / Cwilliams@montanadsl.net

    SD 47: Ron Erickson (D)
3250 Pattee Canyon Road
Missoula, MT 59803


    549-4671 / Nancron@aol.com

    SD 48: Tom Facey (D)
418 Plymouth
Missoula, MT 59801


    728-6814 / facey_tom@hotmail.com

    SD 49: Dave Wanzenried (D)
903 Sky Dr
Missoula, MT 59804


    543-2775 / daveew@gmail.com

    SD 50: Cliff Larsen (D)
8925 LaValle Creek Road
Missoula, MT 59808


    728-1601 / Cliff@larsenusa.com
     
  6. Abomb

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    This is BULLSHIT! Thanks Builder! Fowarding this link to as many people as I can plus sending the above idividuals my thoughts on this piece of crap legislation. Thanks as well RickM.
     
  7. Morpheus

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    Here is some info on the economics of angling in MT, contained in an e-mail I sent to relevant Senators. I'm not a MT resident, but I spend plenty of money there primarily because of stream access.
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    As a former resident of both Wyoming and Washington, I've traveled to Montana countless times to enjoy unique and unparalleled access to some of the best angling opportunities in the lower 48. HB309 is a heavy-handed, short-sighted and wrong-headed way to address issues that private landowners have with access, and passing this legislation will have long-term, negative, and meaningful impacts to the citizens of Montana and surrounding states. Restricting access will undoubtedly significantly decrease the number of anglers--resident but especially non-resident--that benefit from the outstanding opportunities stream access in MT presently offers.

    Casting a broad net to characterize many rivers in MT as ditches may have unintended consequences that bill proponents haven’t considered. However, economics often hold the strongest influence, so how could HB309 affect dollars that impact the lives of Montana's citizens?? Since 1955, the National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife-Associated Recreation has been sponsored by the US Fish and Wildlife Service. It is a long-lived and comprehensive index that details the significant amount of money recreationalists dedicate to hunting, fishing, wildlife watching and nature-based recreation.

    Last completed in 2006, the report highlights the following numbers for anglers in Montana. In 2006, 291,000 state residents and nonresidents 16 years old and older fished in Montana. Of this total, 172,000 anglers (59 percent) were state residents and 119,000 anglers (41 percent) were nonresidents. About 1 in every 5 Montanans is an angler.

    Anglers spend a lot of money ($226 Million in 2006) in Montana—money that supports a huge variety of business and activities not directly associated with fishing alone. Of the $226 Million spent in 2006, ~$150 Million was trip-related (gas, lodging, meals, incidentals). In addition, a significant amount was spent in Montana on equipment purchases.

    ALL ANGLERS (Resident and Non-resident)
    Total expenditures . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $226,349,000
    Trip-related . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $149,800,000
    Equipment and other . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $76,549,000

    Non-Resident Anglers

    Total expenditures . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $103,591,000
    Trip-related . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $79,210,000
    Equipment and other . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $24,381,000

    Although these numbers are a few years old, they are good indicators of what angling means to Montana.

    Please don't take part in voting for a significant impairment to Montana's economy and way of life. Vote no on HB309

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    Source: U.S. Department of the Interior, Fish and Wildlife Service, and U.S. Department of Commerce, U.S. Census Bureau. 2006 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife-Associated Recreation. http://library.fws.gov/pubs/nat_survey2006.pdf

    State Report for Montana--http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/fhw06-mt.pdf
     
  8. bitterroot

    bitterroot Love vintage graphite!

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    Great letter Morpheus!
     
  9. rick matney

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    Thanks Builder and morpheus great stuff. Montana Board of Outfitters is supposed to be sending out an email with the names of senators that are either on the fence or supporters of the bill. I will post it when it comes through. I think that all the senators need to know how we feel not just the ones that support it. So if you have time send as many emails as you can and phone calls are also effective.

    Thanks guys
     
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    rick matney Active Member

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    Here is the Governor's info as well. Probably not a bad idea to shoot him your concerns as well.

    Governor Brian D. Schweitzer
    ...Office of the Governor
    Montana State Capitol Bldg.
    P.O. Box 200801
    Helena MT 59620-0801
    (406) 444-3111, FAX (406) 444-5529
     
  11. Builder

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    Thanks guys, and gals.
    The Montana Stockgrowers Association and The Montana Farm Bureau are a couple major pushes on this. I'll get some contacts posted hear later for those folks and it might help to write them as well.
    Their are some folks in Montana already threatening a boycott of Montana beef and wheat unless these associations convince "their" Senators to pull this damn bill.
    I think we can kill this thing and keep Montana's stream access law a model for the world.
     
  12. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    IF YOU LOVE MONTANA'S STREAM ACCESS LAWS -- PLEASE TAKE ACTION

    THE MONTANA STATE SENATE IS NEXT ON THE LIST-- PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO WRITE TO THEM AND REQUEST THEY VOTE NO ON HB 309.

    Here is a copy of e-letters I sent to all of the State Representatives if that is of help.

    Write to as many as you can. We just need to flood them with traffic expressing concern about this. Keep the tone civil, but be direct.

    Dear Representative Loney,

    I am writing you to voice my concern over HB 309 and its detrimental effects on Montana's existing Stream Access Law. Rep. Jeff Wellborn (R-Dillon), HB 309 sponsor, is proposing unnecessary changes which threaten Montana's heralded stream access laws. The proposed language would turn fisherman and other users of stream corridors, into overnight criminals....and must be stopped.

    This is yet another attempt by a select few to undermine Montana's existing laws covering the publics right to access streams within the high-water mark. As you are no doubt aware, millions of people from all over the world come to Montana to experience its world renown fishing and wildlife. This has resulted in billions of dollars in revenue generated for the state. To loose or severely degrade the states very unique stream access law for the benefit of private parties would be a huge loss to all.

    Mr. Wellborn and those associated with writing this bill did not involve any meaningful discussion with the parties it will most adversely effect -- the public -- which you are given the honor and responsibility of representing. This bill seeks to re-define bodies of water, with long standing historical public use, using "crafty language" disguised as aboveboard and in the interest of all. Rest assured, it is anything but in the interest of the public.

    I urge you to do everything you can to defeat HB 309.

    Please do not allow the undermining of Montana's Stream Access Law to take place on your watch!

    Thank you for your time in considering this very important matter.

    Respectfully,
     
  13. rick matney

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    You guys are way more polite and elegant than I am with my letters. Keep up the good work. If all of us jump on this band wagon we should be able to kill this thing. Don't forget phone calls are also effective as well as e-mails There is not much time left so lets get after it.
     
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    Back to the front page where it belongs.
     
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    Thanks man !! I'm writing my letter now !! This has to be killed now !!!