New Boat Model-Need Help with a Name!

Discussion in 'Watercraft' started by BDD, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. nztube

    nztube New Member

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    i like the look if it ... beefy !! how does it handle white water ?
    what about "Raft-Master -Pro " maybe the name is already taken ....
     
  2. Rick Todd

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    David-I like the design of this boat. If I didn't have 5 inflatables already I would be interested in it! BTW-are you going to the MVFF meeting next Tuesday? I will be there. Rick
     
  3. orangeradish

    orangeradish 1/2 an Ira

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    You could name it the Ed Call. I bet he's already hatching some elaborate series of trades, sales, barters and dope deals so he can get one.
     
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  4. BDD

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    I can't even pronounce that and would probably misspell it on the website.

    I had to Google that reference...I'll have to watch the movie and check it out.

    Raft Master Pro might be a little too close to the Water Master, which I think is a great product. I may have to get one of those and have Ken do up a frame for it. Not sure how it handles whitewater as I have never had it out but I would imagine just fine as Jack's has been carrying it for years so I imagine it has been time-tested.

    I may just conveniently have a meeting in Twisp that same day, in which I would definitely stick around for the fly club presentation.

    I literally LOL'ed when I read "dope deal". Maybe call it The Mumbler" in memory of Ed.
     
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    Nice looking raft...always like seeing someones new idea come to fruition. Do you have any specs: length, width, tube diameter and weight? I think you need to get in the water this Saturday, say the Snake around noon?! I'm testing a new motor mount on my raft up there and will probably wet a line also.
     
  6. BDD

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    Total Length: 8'8"
    Inside width: 17.5"
    Outside width: 42"
    Tube diameter: 12"
    Weight Just under 40 pounds, without oars
    Frame is 20" by 30"
    Capacity: 275 pounds
     
  7. nztube

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    How much is the boat and more important for me shipping cost to NZ ?
    Cheers
     
  8. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    Go Sox,
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  9. BDD

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    This is not quite ready for commercial distribution as we need to work out a few details, as well as the retail costs. As far as shipping to NZ, so far our international exposure has been limited to Canada and so I have know idea what the shipping costs would be at this point. I imagine it would not be too difficult to find out since we have the weight and dimensions...
     
  10. Rob Ast

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    BDD,

    A little hard to tell from the pics, but are the front and rear rockers the same? For some reason it looks like the rear is canted up greater than the front (not fully inflated?). How much do you want for just the frame - it looks like it could be attached to a number of un-named one man boats that would benefit from true oar locks.
     
  11. BDD

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    I am fairly certain the front and rear rockers are the same. There are some factory installed loops on one end that I assume are to be used for attaching the rear mesh deck.

    I have a pretty good idea on what materials cost but I'm not sure how much time was involved; probably a lot more on this first one than will be needed for the second. I'd have to get back to you on that.

    While I like the idea of making a one-size-fits all, I'm just not sure how feasible that would be. Ken is a bit of a perfectionist and if he thought that a frame for boat would not fit well with another like he thought it should, well he might fret over that some.

    We are also playing a bit with the seat height. In this one, the seat might sit too high for a really short person to comfortably use fins so we are contemplating making two seat positions; one for fin use that sits lower to the water and the other for use without fins. Or perhaps we can find a happy medium for those on either side of the height bell-shaped curve.
     
  12. PT

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    The BUB (butt ugly boat). ;)
     
  13. BDD

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    Or The BFUB but I'm a family man and there is no need for having an expletive in a boat name.
     
  14. SpeyFitter

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    I think the reason most pontoon manufacturers slightly recess frames a bit, which lowers their seats (look at the frame on the Outcast Pac boats, the frame seat landing is slightly recessed within the toons, not at level with the tops of the toons like you find on catarafts or whitewater boats) is so you have a good mix of potential to utilize it on still waters with fins versus whitewater where the height helps with visibility as well as keeping you higher away from obstacles essentially. So what I am saying is basically most pontoon boat frames are a bit of a compromise to accommodate the versatility to use them in a river (fins, or no fins) or a lake (fins). There ARE some rivers as you already know where you can casually drift down and fish with the current (or in the slack current too) where you just need the fins to spin you as you cast and fish.

    So I guess what you should decide is do you want a compromise craft that can do it all, or a river craft. AS it stands right now, the frame design to me is more of a river craft with it sitting just slightly above the tops for he tubes. Keep in mind however, that since your toon diameters are low, that might help with the ability to use fins as well. Most toons are 16-18-20" in diameter, yours are 12" which might make the frame as it currently stands feasible as a compromise frame.

    I will say however that IF you intended to build a longer, and wider version of this platform (I think a longer and wider version of this boat would be a set up for anglers who drift rivers with more/larger class rapids and/or for multi days I wouldn't build a compromise frame) - it should be aimed as a dedicated river craft with appropriate frame.

    For River use it would be nice if this boat were 6-12" wider with slightly bigger diameter toons for additional carrying capacity/stability, with my earlier mentioned frame modifications. Right now the boat is competing with the watermasters, only difference is this boat has a frame and rockered hull. If it has some slightly larger dimensions than the water masters, combined with the rocker and frame which water masters don't have, it'd be a way better & safer river craft. I apologize, I'm biased towards rivers. If you want to fish lakes, get a fricking aluminum jon boat or utility boat.
     
  15. Freestone

    Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

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    Scott, my Scadden Cardiac Canyon also has 12" diameter tubes and the frame sits on top of them. It is fine for both finning and rowing.

    BDD, we need to sit down for some BBQ and brainstorm names!
     
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