New Raft

Discussion in 'Watercraft' started by cjflyfish, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. cjflyfish

    cjflyfish Member

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    After alot of debate between Drift Boat and Raft I have decided that I will buy a Raft with a Fishing Frame. As much as I would love a drift boat and have almost even bought one I have decided to get a raft. I've got it narrowed down to two models. An NRS OTTER 130 which I have fished out of before. Or a Outcast Pac 1300 (Aire Super Puma). I have not fished out of this and also considered the 1400 (super duper puma) for the extra space.

    I've done a lot of reading to explore the differences. So I have a few questions.

    What have peoples favorites been? Do people prefer the AIRE PVC bladder system over the NRS Hypalon welded materials. I know that PVC is rigid or harder feeling then the Hypalon of the NRS.

    I'm going to put a NRS Fishing frame in whatever raft I've got set up.

    is there any other recommendations? I'm' hoping to do some overnighters in this raft so hopefully want to accommodate a descent size cooler, and contain alot of my gear in the rear. Are there accessories that some of you have found you don't use alot, and some accessories that you can't live without??

    I'm hoping by the end of the week I will have it all picked out and ordered soon!

    Thanks for the help!
     
  2. Riverman

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    Questions...

    Are Otter rafts glued or welded?
    Do they have a 5 or 10-year warranty?
     
  3. Connor H

    Connor H Bobbers n Beadz

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    Calling Bill Dodd...
    I recently bought a 14' maravia ranger with a fishing frame. LOVE IT!!! be careful with the fisherman in the back though... If you miss a stroke, you will have a swimmer. (Only speaking from experience!) lol
     
  4. shawn k

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    get the aire super duper puma or the pac 1400 with the nrs frame. The 1300 doesnt handle as good with 3 guys in it and won't be good for overnighters.

    Aire boats are made in the usa have a great warranty and are built by people that use them.
     
  5. Riverman

    Riverman Active Member

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    Aire gives EXCELLANT customer service also...
     
  6. TrappedinCO

    TrappedinCO Help! I'm trapped in a landlocked state.

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    The Otter will probably handle a rear-seated angler better. Super Pumas are great boats, but their diminishing tube design doesn't work well with much weight on the back tube. Just my 2 cents.
     
  7. Bill Dodd

    Bill Dodd Bill's in a time out.

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    I have the 13 foot Otter and it handles a 3rd person just fine. But I do like the way it handles with just one angler up front. We have done overnighters and with two people and gear it has just enough room, But If I were going to do mulit-day overnighters there could be a bit more room. Also when you are fishing two anglers it's a bit tight on room for extras.

    I love everything about the Otter, But then again it's the only raft I have ever owned.


    BD.

    :thumb:
     
  8. Keaten LaBrel

    Keaten LaBrel Formerly Tyinbugs

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    I own an NRS Otter 142 (the 14' version) and my good buddy has the Pac 1300...both are great boats the Pac is a little easier to maneuver b/c its shorter, but i feel like the NRS is a more solid boat, i'm yet to have a problem with it (knock on wood) and have taken it down some pretty gnarly water...fishing from the back of the NRS seems to be a little more solid than the Pac as well (i always feel like there is potential for getting bucked on the Pac)...good luck on your decision and if it gets too hard to decide, then just get a clackacraft and fear no rock!!
     
  9. Shapp

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    I have had several typs of rafts and currently have 2 rafts and 1 cat.

    My favorite right now is the super duper puma. It is a great creeking boat. The only real drawback is that the inside width limits the cooler size, the biggest best one you can get in there is a 80 quart Yeti Sherpa. I have had it on big and small water up to Class IV+ with no problems, and had it on multiday trips with 3 guys, although 2 people for 1 week is better for total self support, with all the niceties. If you want to look at my set up and are in the Everett area, send me a PM and bring over some beers to talk rafts.

    By the way, all hypalon boats are glued (not the same glue bond as a glued PVC, much more deep seated and permanent than the PVC glue). Welding only applies to PVC.

    Also if you are at all handy, you can make an NRS type fishing frame for about 25 to 30% less than you can buy it.

    Here is a photo rigged a couple ways, fising 2 people 1 week trip on the Salmon, or not fishing with 2 passangers upfront for a week on the Owyhee.

    There is only one drawback potentially if you aren't into building stuff and intend to purchace everythng stock. If you get a narrow boat like the Puma series, you are going to have to either be able to make or have made more customized equipment (like a table/seat deck, drybox etc.) because the standards sizes don't fit with the Super Duper Puma narrow width. Everything else you can pretty much buy stock though. In terms of a drybox, a custom one is about the same price as a stock one however, and you can make a table/seat deck way cheaper and just as good as the ones you can buy, such as the cambridge brand, etc.
     
  10. cjflyfish

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    Thanks for all the replies. Its good to see what others preferences are as well as the plus and minuses of the different rafts. When it comes down to it it seems that its just picking a raft that you want and making it work.

    I've leaned towards the AIRE, it does worry me about having to get more customized accessories like dry boxes but I'm sure that could come in the future.

    I've read some people say that the AIRE rafts feel more maneuverable because they are narrower. They also say they are stiffer in general. anyone feel this makes a difference in handling?
     
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    Go for the driftboat - A Clacka is my boat of choice :)
     
  12. Bullwhacker

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    I'd recommend the NRS with the NRS fishing frame. I would also not waste the money on the fishing platform under the front seat or the half ass brace. Both are a nuisance and subtract more from the fishing experience then add. You will never have line management in a raft like you do in a drift boat and the best solution is to minimize the obstacles to tangle on.
     
  13. 1morecast

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    I have owned both a driftboat and 2 rafts. My own preferance is for a raft, which will enable you to access a lot more water. My first raft was a 14 ft.maravia, built like a tank yet still easy to handle. My 2nd raft was a super puma. IMHO this is one of the best fishing boats out there. This boat will go just about any where you would want to take her. Because of her size and the fact that she draws less water then most boats you can explore lots of side channels and braids that most boats can't get to. The Bitterroot, upper Bighole, and Madison , after runnoff when the water has cleared and there is still plenty of water in those side channels are just a few that come to mind. I have also made multi-day trips up to 3 nights with another person and we were able to carry 2 ice chests and all our gear.

    With the NRS frame you can't go wrong. Also I agree with Bullwhacker, don't waste your money on the casting platforms they just get in the way. Do buy the anchor system it works well and is a nice touch on a sweet NRS frame.
     
  14. Kirk Singleton

    Kirk Singleton Capt Kirk

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    There are a lot of quality rafts out there these days. Maravia-the gold standard, NRS are great with fantastic customer svc. and even Star for less $ but has good quality now. The trick seems to be is how you take care of it, UV is the killer. You will find a lot of good deals on used right now. Check out Craigslist in WA, Idaho and Montana. Just make sure that you get self bailing. I ended up with the Clack just because I can take it in lakes with a small motor. I also do quite a bit of Steelheading.
     
  15. Mayfly Aviator

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    NRS 100%. Wider (more stable, more storage, better tracking) and easier to store(being hypalon) if you don't have space to leave it inflated.

    If it was solely for whitewater, I'd recommend the AIRE, but NRS makes the best fishing raft. Plus, hypalon repairs more easy since you don't have to mess with bladders.

    -Sam (former NRS employee)