Based on bhudda's recent experience on the Cedar, I have to ask: Who feels the need to pack some sort of self defense weapon while on the water? I'm not at all concerned about the wildlife, it's the 2-legged crazies you can meet on the water that makes me think about it. Even while floating the Little Deschutes near Vail, I've seen some very suspect individuals living/camping along the river. I own a Glock 19 for home defense, which I take on road trips now and then, but never take it on the water - it's big and heavy for my style of fly fishing. Now I see a very compact Kel Tek .380 is available that you can just slip into a vest pocket, and I'm wondering if that makes sense. It's too bad we even have to talk about self defense on the water. But, I'm married with kids and feel a responsiblility to stay alive for some time to come. Do you carry a gun/knife/mace/brass knuckles/ etc while on the water? What is it and why do you recommend it? Thanks for your thoughts.