Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Ringlee, May 14, 2010.
most excellent, i also thanked them for this important stance on a critical species issue.
Great first step - now the momentum should shift to campaigning against those vendors who are going to start selling them - the next in line. Because others will see this as an opportunity - keep fighting the good fight.
Did not expect this. Huge props to Pike's Place, and to everyone that stepped up to send the message!
Not to throw cold water on this, but this change in policy coincides with the arrival of the first Copper River sockeye and kings and the wind-down of the wild steelhead migration. Was this a moral / ethical decision or simply one of convenience? Some of us have long memories; we can remember back to similar campaigns that targeted the sale of wild steelhead at local markets. It seems more like the game of "whack-a-mole". As long as the tribes can legally harvest wild steelhead (as can sportsfishers....), they will find a market. To make a lasting, positive change, you have to strike a deal with the individual tribes that can legally harvest and sell these fish and make it worth their time to reduce their harvest. How one does this in practice (paid for fewer days, shorter soaks, different gear, payment, etc.) is a huge issue. And the tribes have to be willing to participate in this.
Guess we'll find out when next season rolls around.
FYI... Note the reply below from the Pike Place Fish Market (Anders) following my e-mail to them earlier this morning.
"Thanks for your support and causing a breakthrough for us. Tell your friends. Anders @ Pike Place Fish Co."
This is a success story, and we should learn from it. Let's help their memory when winter steelhead become available next season. Let's help make sure WE don't forget. I encouraged them to post and advertise their decision, which I hope they do. If/when any of us buy from them, or visit the market, let's be sure and point out that we are aware and support their decision.
I hope we have all learned that making our voices heard can make a difference, and that we should speak up. Thanks and respect you all who weighed in with emails to PPFM. Good on ya, gents.
cabezon, lets not steal this thread, ok?? the tribes view their harvesting as an ENTITLEMENT and just as some well meaning folks thought they could talk welfare moms out of their ENTITLEMENTS, your approach won't have any impact.
congratulations to all of us, populists who picked up the cudgels, and went to work providing information to pike street. drying up the market for the sale of these fish is going to send a clear message to the distrubution network and down to those who harvest, you can't sell'um for a profit any longer. the power of the marketplace is the right avenue for this continuing battle.
eyes open, it ain't over................
Great news :thumb:
Sent Pike Place a 'thank you' for stepping up and doing the right thing. Awesome!
I agree with cabezon, this is just a matter of convenience. Didn't anyone notice what their plans are.
"It's now our intention to find a more sustainably managed variety of ocean going trout in the future (perhaps an aquaculture version)."
Congratulations and thank you!!! Education is the key. The more the general public understands the difference between "wild" and "hatchery" Steelhead the better. PPM is a very good advocate for spreading the word.
In response to Cabazon, it is all a matter of "supply and demand". The more folks refuse to buy 'wild" Steelehad, the less profitable the harvest of these fish will be for the commercial interests. A similar situation occured a few years ago with the harvest of Marlin. You see much less of it on the store shelves today.
was there not a post a few days ago about pond raised steelhead somewhere on the east side?? maybe that news needs to be forwarded to pike street. just a thought.
The tribe that raises the mutant triploids in Rufus Woods sells them to restaurants and stores as "steelhead." There are a few other places doing the same thing, like the place in Idaho that is selling these:
Just got a reply to my "thank you" email to PPFM. Looks to me like they might be getting it. At any rate, they are inviting us to help them, let's take them up on the invitation...
"Thanks for the acknowledgement... We actually had a conversation about sustainability as a whole, not just steelhead, and plan to be making more environmentally responsible choices in the near future. Any info or resources that may help us achieve our goal, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your support. Anders @ Pike Place Fish"