No More Wild Steelhead Sold at Pike Place market

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Ringlee, May 14, 2010.

  1. constructeur

    constructeur Active Member

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    That tribe is currently working on updating their operation with a $50m + facility in the Bridgeport area. Seems a better source than the Hoh or Quinault, but I've no science to back that opinion up.
     
  2. Jmills81

    Jmills81 The Dude Abides

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    Seriously...can you imagine how bad it would be on them if they went back on their word. Lord help them if they do

    For phuck sakes....dwell on the good of this one.

    Next question, which vendor can we now convince otherwise now that PFM is on board?
     
  3. FLGator

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    I'm 100% with Josh on this one...give Pike Place Market some credit for stepping up and doing what's right. Granted, it's a small step in the recovery effort, but an important one.

    Hats off to PPM for supporting sustainable fisheries and doing the right thing.
     
  4. Stewart

    Stewart Skunk Happens

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    Hot damn!
     
  5. BDD

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    But there are no plans at this time for O. mykiss production at this facility in any form; strictly salmon. But that could change.
     
  6. ralfish

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    Do a follow up with Whole Foods. As of last year in response to Emails i sent them with regards to selling the same product, they said they were going to review their policy of selling Tribal steelhead. I did notice that Whole Foods in the area where I live wasnt selling any steelhead this year...
     
  7. nutsack angler

    nutsack angler newb

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    Gold star ralfish. Why market steelhead when salmon is better?
     
  8. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    You can get Copper River Spawners for 57 bucks a pound, great bargain
     
  9. Creatch'r

    Creatch'r Heavies...

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    wow, this is great news! awesome work gentlemen! i'll get that thank you email sent out ASAP
     
  10. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    When the next season rolls around, let's all be on watch at our local markets and send them the same message. The success rate in getting places to stop selling wild steelhead has proven high so far. The places I've seen them in the past, but didn't get around to checking this year included Central Market and Whole Foods. Hopefully they've changed their policies by now, but I guess we won't know til next season.
     
  11. Split Bamboo

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    Remember some of the steelhead sold by the tribes are hatchery fish. Clearly, not the fish being sold in March and April, but some tribes have large hatchery programs. I am pretty sure the hatchery fish would be labeled as 'wild' as opposed to 'farm raised' when sold retail, when in fact we would define them as hatchery brats.
     
  12. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    The tribes can net all the hatchery fish they want as far as I'm concerned. The issue is that their tactics will have a wild by-catch no matter what. The only way to remedy this is to use more selective harvest methods, ie: not gill nets. So supporting them to gill net hatchery steelhead is as good as supporting them gill netting wild fish in my opinion.
     
  13. Split Bamboo

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    Evan, I totally agree with your points.
     
  14. papafsh

    papafsh Piscatorial predilection

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    Native tribes don't need to net catch returning hatchery fish, they can harvest them when they return to the hatchery. Just keep what they need to sustain the return levels and capture all the rest, right at the hatchery, without ever running a net across the river.
    What is so complicated about that? Is this to simple, or, am I missing something?

    LB
     
  15. gt

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    papafish, i suggest you visit a hatchery when the run is headed home. by the time these fish get to their home hatchery, they are not fit to eat. however, repealing the ban on fish weirs, traps, and wheels, that white society put in place shortly after state hood, could be the trigger to getting gill nets out of the terminal fisheries.