Outcast owners...whats your input?

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  1. Jim Jones

    Jim Jones flytosser

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    The 9000 assembly does take some time to get used to. The strapping system is a little cumbersome at first as you try to attach the pontoons to the drop bars. I found a screwdriver (not the vodka and OJ kind) that has a handle that is the perfect size for the strapping system. I insert the screwdriver handle into the strap and then push it out with the drop bars and voila, pontoon attached.

    Probably could do the same thing with a short section of PVC pipe.

    Once you get the pontoons inflated you don't have to worry about straps loosening as you float on down the river. Not sure why the 900 is a "better" river boat...but assembling the 9000 isn't a problem.

    Jim Jones
     
  2. Steak Daddy

    Steak Daddy Steve Daley - West Seattle Denizen

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    I have a PAC 800 and have been very pleased. I weigh in at about 200 lbs and have never had a stability problem, but likewise have never boated more than Class I or II water in it.

    The Outcast frames are very solid. The heavy aluminum tubing is both light and very rigid, there is no twisting or torque to these frames.

    I would wholeheartedly recommend any of the Outcast PAC boats.

    sd
     
  3. hutch

    hutch solomon

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    Just another opinion Patrick, but I have a 900 and it is more maneuverable in tight water, and much easier to own. Which is to say its easier to carry to/from water alone (sometimes a decent distance), easier to carry around snags in the river (important in rivers like the upper North Fork of the Nook) and easier to transport (I can strap mine completely built to my Yakima Rack on the top of my truck).

    It is important to note that neither the 900 or the 9000 are particularily easy to fish from in rivers (anchored or not), but I don't know of a P-boat that is.

    I have heard (as others mention) that the 9000 is more of a stillwater boat.


    --hutch
     
  4. jbrodie

    jbrodie New Member

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    I have a PAC 800 and it is a quality boat but expensive and I figure if I am floating down a river it is nice to have faith in the boat. I just checked on-line and they still are going for about $1100.00. I'm not sure what the 900 goes for. I weigh only 150# and the 800 is plenty of boat for me. I am able to lift it and place it on the rack on my truck. The weight difference in an 800 and a 900 might be worth considering. I made the mistake of not upgrading the aluminum oars that came with it, something else to consider. Good luck, Jim.
     
  5. Oneweight

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    Patrice,

    As you know, I bought a PAC 800 from the very shop that now employs you and have been very happy with it. Skagit, Sky, Yak, ID, Montana, and a bunch of lakes. No problems, easy to store, takes a beating and well worth the extra rubles. Like JBrodie said, if it's my buns on the line, I feel much better knowing that I paid a few extra bucks and am extremely confident in this boat. If Silver Bow sells them, take one down a river or come borrow mine. After I did this, there was no question that I wanted this boat over the Southfork. good luck, man

    Jeff
     
  6. pwoens

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    I talked to Kelley at Outast yesterday....what a company :thumb:. After talking to her I think I am leaning more towards the 800 or 900 now. The 9000, in their opinion, is deisgned more for lakes. She said it will handle whitewater but is more suited for still water and in some of the situations mentioned, will handle less than desireable because of the two toons on each side AND low center of gravity. Plus, the extra width with the 9000 makes it almost impossible to fit in the full size bed of my truck. If I buy an 800 and some 1000 toons extra I could have two toons for the price of the 9000 ;) .

    Thanks everyone for the input...it really has helped a ton.
     
  7. Randy Buske

    Randy Buske New Member

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    Patrick,

    I have a PAC 8000. Bought it in 2002 and have about 20 trips on it. I think the quality of construction sets it apart from allot of the other pontoons. I also have a ablecraft and have been using that instead because of the ease of set up. I'd be willing to give you a good deal on the PAC 8000. It has all the accesories.
     
  8. Chromer

    Chromer Defeat terrorism

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    I have a PAC 800, and like it. Believe this - I found mine on Ebay a year ago. Brand new, was a X-Mas present that someone either didnt want or didnt need. Believe this 2 - seller didnt know much about Ebay, had no bids, and dropped the price before the weeklong auction ended. It was a grab. Moral of story is this - check Ebay just in case - you never know. :confused:
     
  9. pwoens

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    Randy, I sent you an email.
     
  10. jessejames

    jessejames Flyslinger

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    Patrick:
    I have a question after re-reading this thread it looked like the 9000 was not on you radar. But now it looks like that you and the old man have both made the move to this boat. After your research and thinking the 9000 was more for lakes why the change of mind. I know I could have gotten the scoop from you direct but I think that it would be interesting to know what made you decide on the lower profile boat. :confused:
    jesse clark
     
  11. pwoens

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    Well, several things. I spoke to the outcast rep and he, having nothing to gain from my purchase, told me about their trip to New Zealand. He said that they had 6 or 7 different boats (cant remember for sure) and that the 9000 was the boat of choice among all of them. I then spoke to Jeremy at Outcast, whom I had been told runs a 9000 on rivers, and he said he has done probably over 5000 miles of whitewater on his 9000 and absolutely loves it.

    As with any boat, alot of it comes down to how well you run your sticks and what kind of boatman you are. Originally, the 9000 was my first choice since 60-70% of the use will be lakes but I was kind of turned away by some wff responses and opinions in regards to this boat (thanks to all who responded).

    In addition I talked to TWD from this site and he was the third person I had talked to who actually had first hand experience with the 9000 and moving water. TWD has taken his down the Ronde and some MT streams that I have been down in my Bucks and to hear that the 9000 handled fine was the last bit-o-info I needed.

    Out of the 3 I talked to, no one had any negative first hand, on the water, experiences with the 9000. So, my original choice came back and I bought the 9000. The 9000 is THE boat for still water and with no complaints about running whitewater, I made my choice. It arrived yesterday and I have to say....WOW!!! What a well thought out boat. I have never seen the 9000 in person and I am extremely impressed.

    Shortly after I bought my boat, TWD had to make me an offer I couldnt refuse on his 9000.....so I passed it onto the old man and he bought it. :thumb:
     
  12. ballafish

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    I own the outcast pac900 for the past 2 years. This was my second boat and made my decision after looking over my friends pac900. I love this boat! I fish in mostly lakes so I wont comment on running fast water. On lakes you will love the way this boat performs it scoots over the tops of heavy weed beds and glides effortlessly from place to place. Plenty of storage and a nice sized rear flat bed to load up for an overnight-er. Very well made great customer support. They have been around awhile so replacement parts are easy to find. You should be able to find a new one for around $1,250 just do it. I looked at many articles and reviews you can find other pontoon boats that may perform better in rapids because that is what they are built for but for fishing go with the outcast!
    Alle the best,
    Allen (new member)
     
  13. PT

    PT Physhicist

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    You're about 2 years and 4 months late with that helpful info. Good info though.:thumb:
     
  14. Kim Hampton

    Kim Hampton Not Politically Correct

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    I have the pac900. I haven't fished in on a river yet as I had a larger whitewater raft until I sold it last summer. It's a good boat and easy to set up but after a day fishing on a lake my back and ass are killing me. There must be a better seat to change out what it comes with.
     
  15. Randy Buske

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    I have PAC9000. Very durable boat. I would like to sell. Have a number of accessories. Make me an offer!!!