Pass Lake- my 1st Brown

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  1. Irafly

    Irafly Indi "Ira" Jones

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    That is a great looking bug, I almost ate it myself when I clicked on it. No wonder that brown couldn't resist, heck he probably wasn't even hungrly just couldn't help himself. I've caught quite a few fish out of Pass over the years but not that many browns and each one is kind a cool good catch man.

    Ira..
     
  2. Rob Ast

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    Nice fish. Just some additional anecdotal evidence that big flies catch big fish.
     
  3. jonbackman

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    Thanks for the feedback, guys. I was wondering while I was out there; an otter was hanging around quite a bit in one area where I was fishing. I had no action while it was around. I know when I'm fishing a beach(salt), I don't tend to catch much when there are seals present. Can anyone speak to a similar effect of otters in the fresh? (fish-eating predator is around, so the fish aren't active)
     
  4. Mark Horwath

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    It seems logical that the trout would high tail it out of the area? I have had the same experience,I just move on now if they come around. Nice fish by the way,and fly.I wonder if the otters kick up bugs while they are chasing crayfish, in turn the trout eat the bugs?
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  5. Tim Lockhart

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    I haven't found that to be the case at all. The culprit yesterday would have been inactive fish in the earlier part of the morning. With conditions the way they were, the fish got active at mid day (80% of my take yesterday came between 11 and 1).

    I see those otters all the time and have caught fish all around them when the lake is active. Can't tell you how their diet breaks down but, interestingly, I've seen them eating a lot of crayfish and have never once seen one take a trout. Something else I've noticed, fish will display a lot of behavior that protects them from air predation (eagles/osprey) but I've never observed anything in their behavior that suggests avoidance of otters...logically I would think bigger fish are a much more significant threat to smaller fish than an otter could ever be. Of course I'm not saying otters don't feed on fish but it seems to me an abundant supply of large crayfish is a much easier meal if you're an otter, and just the opposite if you hunt from the air and have superior vision.

    My best guess, bigger fish are mostly threatened by birds, while smaller ones are threatened by pretty much everything (eagles/osprey, heron, otters, big fish, etc.). So if you happen to see otters around and the bite is rather lackluster, I still wouldn't draw much or any correlation. Think tempurature, food and visibility.
     
  6. Irafly

    Irafly Indi "Ira" Jones

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    Great observations Fenders, in fact I've used predators as an indication that fish are around versus the other way around. On several trips on lakes or rivers I've used where birds of prey are targeting there search as an indication as to where fish are concentrating to my advantage. Once on the Clark Fork in Montana I fished several sections of river with no luck but from a distance watched two Osprey circle over one section of river. When I hiked down there the Osprey cleared out and sure enough I started hitting some fish in that section. I moved on and the Osprey moved back. I continued to not catch fish so I moved back to the section again and guess what, I caught more fish. In fact in that section I landed the largest Brown trout of my life all because predators were present.

    Ira..
     
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    FF - now that I think about it, youre thoughts sound very accurate. I doubt an otter would be trying to catch and eat a trout of decent size. Too bad I promised to be home by 11 a.m. yesterday, sounds like I missed the best part of the day.
     
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    Gorgeous first brown.
     
  9. Tim Lockhart

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    ira thats a great point. its like when the swallows come out and swarm the lake surface....time to start casting. >> one other observation that i found rather interesting, at Pass and Martha I've seen tons of fish taken by eagles and osprey but all rainbows (never once a brown).
     
  10. Irafly

    Irafly Indi "Ira" Jones

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    Good observation as well, although I have caught browns on dries at Pass so I wonder why, do they camo better?

    I was fishing the Green river once out of Auburn for what I thought were trout at the time in High School but were probably par when my buddy hooked a fairly good sized fish (8" was good sized) I was watching it when an otter came out of nowhere and shockingly stole it right off the hook. At least to this day we assumed it was an otter. It was big and brown and sleek and thick and had eyes the size of quarters but we never saw it surface. Very cool and spooky thing to see. Despite that we continued to catch fish in that exact same spot right after that and we were catching fish right before as well.

    They are not predators for nothing, they know how to be subtle about what they do.

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  11. nwtroutguy

    nwtroutguy The Tug Is The Drug

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    Congrats on the first Brown! Keep at it and you will start seeing feeding patterns etc. Pass can be tough at times, but the fish are usually in the obvious places....especially Brownies.
     
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    Great report and super fish. Funny you mentioned that you first thought you had a snag. My first brown at Pass was the same way.
     
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    That's a great fish! I've had really good luck out there on an olive and white clouser
     
  14. tonemike

    tonemike fish'n glass

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    nice catch! you probably ought to stick to cutties and bows in the future though, as it won't be easy to do much better than you just did with that fat brown (kinda like when you hit that half court 3 pointer). just kidding of course. the pix of the fish and the fly are greatly appreciated.
    -mike
     
  15. Paul Huston

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    nice Brown
    nice Fly
    Congrats