You guys really think that is strange???? Did you really think about it??? You guys need to take a logic or philosophy class because it is just like this: 1. All lollipops are candies, but not all candies are lollipops 2. All girls are people, but not all people are girls. Than you can define things further like this: 1. For a dog to be a puppy it has to be a very young dog. 2. For a candy to be a lollipop, it must be on a stick. So for a steelhead to be a fly caught steelhead, it has to be caught with fly gear while fly fishing. Gear fishing is an all encompassing approach to fishing where you can do whatever you want whenever you want, so a gear fishing site includes all disciplines of fishing including fly fishing. Case in point, I never see gear guys debate what we are debating because it doesn't matter to them. Fly fishing is a self imposed set of restrictions thus it only includes a specific set of criteria, thus we are on a fly fishing site, discussing this stuff tirelessly. So you see, these restrictions and gear choices are exactly what make fly fishing what it is, otherwise, you are simply fishing an ineffective way for no reason, like casting a jig float on a fly rod instead of a centerpin. What we are saying is that there are a specific set of criteria that make fly fishing what it is, this does not include jig/float, centerpin et cetera. It sounds idiotic, I know, but that is fly fishing. Like I say, if you really think fly fishing isn't its own thing, don't fish fly fishing only waters, that is like practicing Judaism in a Cathedral.