Poor camping etiquette by fisherman

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by patrick barta, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. Mark Walker

    Mark Walker Active Member

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    Question;
    Were you camped in such a manner that people traveling parallel in either direction to the river were passing through your camp or passing through your camp in a manner perpendicular to the river? As in from parking or from another campsite to the river.
     
  2. Bill Dodd

    Bill Dodd Bill's in a time out.

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    Too hyper sensitive ?

    When you go to Disneyland during vacation season you should expect crowds.
    a crowd usually means diversity and that means not everyone is going to LOOK and THINK the same as you.
    Welcome to Planet Earth.

    Bill Dodd.
     
  3. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    I don't think I'd have had an issue with it. Perhaps because my camping is pretty simple and takes up little room. I don't set up cook station etc.

    The only problem I've had camping was years ago. We got to our campsite early and set up the tent. A guy and his family arrived the next day. He seemed like a nice fellow. We took off to go fishing. Most of our camping gear was in the tent, sleeping bags, coolers etc.
    When we returned from fishing, our tent was in a total different spot. The people on the other side of us informed us that our new camping neighbor had moved our tent. He took everything out of the tent, broke it down, moved it to a new spot, set it up and put everything back in it. When we asked him why he did it, he said he felt it was to close to his campsite. Pretty strange stuff and beyond what I'd consider acceptable camping etiquette. :eek:
     
  4. JesseC

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    :ray1:couldn't have said it better.
     
  5. dryflylarry

    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    I think you are being too sensitive. The only thing that the idiot didn't do was say "excuse me" or something, instead of just barging thru. I would say that part was pretty rude. Otherwise, I think you should expect that with so many damn fly fisherman out there intent on finding their trout. If you wish more privacy, you should have found a site back away from the river or away from the "fisherman's trail". Sorry pal. Lighten up. I used to do a lot of hiking, and still try to get up in the high country. I never so so many people in the mountains and on trails nowadays. It's insane. Look at any trailhead. I hate it, but now you need reservations for a lot of places. Who ever thought... I never thought I would pay for television either 30 years ago... Your gonna have to learn to keep kool. :)
     
  6. Smooth

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    I'll give the man the benefit of the doubt and assume he was not hogging territory or camped illegally, or on an obvious trail (if they were camping right on a trail, none of my comments are valid):

    It really doesn't matter where a person is camped, a (legal) camp is a camp and it should be considered sovereign ground.
    This was true when, and where, I was raised.
    It is still is true and you will recognize and respect other's privacy if you are a courteous, respectful, thoughtful Sportsman.
    Not to mention...legally, your camp IS your HOME while you occupy it. It is considered private and even law enforcement must obtain a search warrant, or have strong probable cause, to enter and search a camp in most situations.

    Just where were some of you raised that think it is OK to waltz through a man's camp?
    That's just not courteous, respectful, or AMERICAN.
     
  7. Randall Dee

    Randall Dee Castaway

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  8. patrick barta

    patrick barta Love'em - N - Leave'em

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    Just to clarify a few things here. We were not camped on the trail. There really isn't any trail. We were at the Buckskin Mary site which is just a bunch of sites along the river.

    There was lots of room to avoid our site. A simple 10 paces around the shrubs would have done the trick.

    I've had people walk through camp before, but it is always with some sort of greeting before entering. I can be a pretty friendly guy and can hold a conversation, especially when it comes to fishing, but when someone wonders through without saying a word, like we don't exist... that bugs me.

    I'm pretty protective of my camp. Several years ago camping on Rock Creek my friend and I had our camp looted. The took the stove, lantern, cooler full of beer and food!

    Furthermore... I've got a family to protect. It was warm and we all set up tents without rain flies. You can feel somewhat violated when a stranger walks next to your tent early in the morning with your ugly's hanging out!
     
  9. BDD

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    I was holding off on commenting until I heard more info. The fact that you were in an established campground away from the trail leads me to believe the angler(s) should not walk through your camp uninvited or at least without a greeting first.

    As far as the trout rising in front of the camp water, unless you are already there ready to fish, anyone should be able to access that part of the river. I know that wasn't your primary issue but it was brought up by others.
     
  10. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    Judging by the orifice remarks, your panties are likely a little compressed.

    Go Sox,
    cds
     
  11. speyday

    speyday Rod tubes in the overhead compartment

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    Here in the midwest, a lot of these kind of violations are committed by people who don't speak english too well.

    If they did, a friendly conversation first..................and mixing in the lesson later in the chat......would help to teach etiquette rather than get in a huff. In a way, you get on thier good side, and when the lesson or comment comes sweetly, they become quite embarrased later. I learned campground etiquette this way when we were setting up at night and my car door open "beeper" was dinging for 20 minutes. We were moving our gear out quietly, quickly, and with military precision, but forgot about that little constant "ding". We were offered help, and when we asked why he got up and walked over in the cold at such a late hour, he explained that the beeping made him feel like he was attached to a cardiac monitor.
    A little humor, a lesson, and we were immediately mortified.

    I'm also the guy who is very aware of staying FAR behind cars when driving along scenic roads, like along lake crescent.

    But if you are posting on the internet, and seeking to take surveys, perhaps the etiquette issue is trumped by some stewing and mulling issues. Dont get your knickers in a twist. Teach the finer points....some folks truly just don't know any better. There parents were snaggers.
     
  12. midwestnative

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    I accidentally hiked through someones camp site up in Box Canyon Creek. By the time I realized it there was no turning back. I apoligized and kept going. I didn't feel to bad when I noticed the 4 huge spinning rods leaned up against the tree, and the pile of garbage they were accumulating in the woods. I think as long as you announce before you enter you should be ok.
     
  13. FLGator

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    I'd expect a friendly greeting and the person to ask if it were ok to travel through the camp. If not, go around and go fishing. If ok, then smile and let them get on looking for rising fish while you guys watch from camp.

    Lots of interesting opinions here on what is acceptable and not. Some down right rude.
     
  14. Upton O

    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    I don't know what's right or wrong for others. I just know I wouldn't walk through someone else's campsite unless the trail ran through the site or there was no other way to get through. I would find it very impolite to walk through as you described.

    I know I'm old fashioned in many ways. I still hold to the image that those who fish with flies should show class and respect. And it isn't just about releasing wild fish and honoring someone else who is already on the body of water. It's a very refined art form, to cast a fly well. Classy, beautiful, graceful. Some people wear the costume but lack integrity even if they can cast.

    But what do I know. I'm just a raisin with a trailing loop problem who is trying to be a grape with a tight loop, dressed like a wannabe model in an L.L. Bean catalog.
     
  15. Panhandle

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    I don't know where these "too sensitive" people are coming from. Assuming these folks had the option to go around your campsite, I'd be livid. My tolerance would be far less than yours. In other words a productive confrontation would be warranted. Mine would involve a .45