Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Panhandle, Oct 6, 2009.
Remember its very dangerous to drive over the passes when there is snow. Very dangerous.
For all of you that bitch about crowds, I suggest you pass out birth control to everyone who may spawn a fisherman. It ain't the internet's fault, it all the people making more people. Myself included.
Poor indeed, went to the Methow for the first and for this year anyways last time this year, so feel safe with this report, and it was unbelievable. yes lots of people, but have never seen so many fish hooked up, maybe just a lucky day, so crazy that i just expected a tug with every cast, simply amazing, hope it keeps up. this was on Monday, nymphing of course . was at the Ronde after that and not even close in comparison. Hunt season here so i'm off from fishin'.
In my opinion, fly fishing has become crowded in part due to advertisement "Come fish with us, where our office is waterside" "Legendary rivers, at your beck and call" etc. etc.
Yada yada yada, a lot of people are making a lot of money off of our public waters, which is fine, it's called guiding, but some people sure make fisheries known so they receive business. And not just paying clients hear about which streams are gems. Some of our best eastside steelhead streams are eating it because of crowds. Now there are plenty of fish, and anyone can still get em' but now a lot of people are forced to fish methods not considered as fun or traditional. Take swinging vs. nymphing. For example, who's gonna spend their precious weekend on the Klick swinging for mouth sore fish that got nymphed up by three boats full of guides and clients an afternoon before you arrived? Probably not going to be as effective, so now if you want a legitimate chance at catching some fish, you'll have to stoop to that level. Fly fishing, especially for steelhead has become very very popular, and what's happening now has been expected, and can't really be changed. It's all still fun, just a little more competitive, and the "whoring" out of rivers definitely can't help.
here's a perspective: As our water's become more crowded by shrinking opportunity and a larger population, traditional stream side ettiquette will be imperative as a behavior for us all to enjoy a day on the river. It doesn't matter the method used, just move through the run and give a fellow fisher an opportunity. If the concern is about numbers of fish caught at any cost the fishing will always be a disappointment to yourself and other anglers. Unfortunately, were loosing sight of the much bigger picture and that is of the fact we are fishing for a shrinking resource and more worried about our catching.
The Met fish were all stacked up in the lower river due to very low water, so ya, basically dredging for steelhead in a barrell. After getting absolutely pounded the first couple of days, catch rate dropped through the floor and got worse through the weekend.
Reminded me of the days when fishermen followed the hatchery "milk" trucks around to fish shoulder to shoulder where ever they dumped the hatchery trout. Quite sporting I'm sure. :beathead:
I'll wait until November; it's about a whole lot more than just catching fish.
Which is the problem, and illuminates my original open ended statement. You're a "Steelheader." Many of the people out there are "Fish catchers."
Look, ya will never catch anything with sour grapes, i was simply reported a good day and wanted to share with others thinking about going for the same reason, if catching fish is not important to you, thats you, i'm sure there are plenty of pretty places you can go, with no people and no fish and have a splendid time swinging. as for me, and maybe a couple other non elitist pricks, i want to go for a good time and some good fishing, the state asked for help and i did my part, in managing a beautiful stream for wild fish. i was happy to do it
2009 Methow Opener.
Dude...is that really the Methow, or is it the Samish?
It's probably the Salmon R. in New York. At any rate, it's not the Methow.
Less fish to fish for, more people fishing for them....Throw in the internet, creative marketing from everyone in the industry; from the tackle mfgrs. to guides, outfitters, and lodges, which all promise to help a fly fisherman catch fish. Turn on the television and you will see plenty of commercials showing some dude who is usally a shitty caster in a serene setting with a big smile. And WOW, seems like more people fly fish now then ever before!
I was fishing the Clearwater in October of 92 when I asked this older gentleman who was half way down the run I wanted to fish, if he would mind if I jumped in behind him. He kinda looked me over (figured out i wasn't much of a threat to fish i guess) and snarled at me to go ahead. When I finished the run this guy was back up at his truck and asked me how I did. I told him the top part of the run didn't look as nice once I got to it, as it did from the road. He chuckled and said I was right,adding that you learn from experiance.
He then told me how the Clearwater was becoming so crowded and that in his opinion "with all the magazines and shows on TV, bowhunting, and fly fishing are being prostituted to death, that one day there are going to be so many damn people on the river and out hunting that a guy is going to have a hard time finding a decent size buck or steelhead much less landing one". I remember thinking to myself this guy is kind of nuts, no way this could happen. Man was I wrong...........
Remember, cast, swing (my prefrence),STEP, get your fish back on his way as soon as you can, and hopefully there will be room for all of us to fish in,and hopefully plenty fish around for all of us! :beer2:
Isn't it amazingly ironic that the baselines are different for every generation but the pattern is the same. That was 4 years before I caught my first steelhead and nowadays the places I fish seem 10X as crowded.........