Poor eastside steelhead rivers.

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Panhandle, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. Salmo_g

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    One of the differences is that you take less notice of the crowd, whatever size it is, when you first get into the game. The more you fish, and the more experienced you become, the more cognizant you are of everything going on in the rivers. So you notice the crowds more and more, so they appear to be even larger than they are. The river was already crowded when first you arrived, but it takes a while for it to really sink in. Then you really notice it, and the crowd grows even more. It's f'in amazing, or depressing.

    I feel like the bed in Jimmy Buffet's motel. Oh the stories I could tell, and I'm not even an old timer. When first I fished the Sauk, it would be a packed weekend to see a half dozen fishermen. The Wenatchee in the 70s had a very few local anglers, and most were migrant farm workers spin fishing ineffectively and never bothering the fly water. If I saw another west side angler, it was someone I knew. The first few times I fished the Methow, I never saw anyone else fishing at all. Never even talked to anyone else who fished the Methow until the mid 80s, when the Wenatchee suddenly became more popular and Seattleites discovered it wasn't too far for a day trip.

    Ah shit!

    Sg
     
  2. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Take heart. If the statistics are right, anglers are a shrinking community. And most of you are old. And I will outlive you. Since fewer new entrants to the sport are coming in than those going out I can look forward to quiet Octobers on the GR again in the future. I'll nymph and bonk a few in your memory.

    Oh and $8 a gallon gas would help too. Maybe some more "economic" downturn to get rid of other anglers disposable income. Won't bother me. I farm, so I'm broke already :)
     
  3. Oldtoy

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    No way...
     
  4. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    Digging up a 2yr old thread for that?
     
  5. PT

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    Ya, and all my relatives who farm in the mid west are broke too... A new truck every other year and no problems paying for all their other toys. I've heard that story a thousand times.
     
  6. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    This is just all part of the grand "re-distribution plan" that's raging across America. What's mine is yours and what's yours is mine ... even if one of us has little or nothing at all. It is completely unfair that some fisherman catch or have in their local waters more than others!

    "Who is John Galt?"
     
  7. Golden Trout

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    I have been fishing east side rivers for nearly 40 years. Methow, Okanogan, Similkameen, Wenatchee, and others. My best year was 10 fish with most years equalling "ZERO". Those few years that produced a few fish came about due to previous years of good snow pack. Ocean predation, etc. etc. means nothing when the rivers simply don't have water and most of it quite warm. There have been years when I have seen the hardy, native white fish go belly up due to extremely warm water environments. Most of the fish I caught were 4 - 8 pounds and in piss-poor shape due to low, warm water, conditions and the very long distance these fish have had to travel.
     
  8. ribka

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    And the bloodthirsty wolves and the gang bangers looking for an easy mark
     
  9. Alosa

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    This sounds an awful lot like the lobster fisherman from Maine, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and PEI....they all cry poor, but have new trucks every other year, and nice homes. Poor my a$$.
     
  10. nick42

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    I would expect to see less people on eastside rivers in the future bc the steelhead fishing isn't really any good on the Methow and Wenatchee Rivers. a few good skunkings for these Puget Sounders with rose colored glasses and theyll stay home. who wants to fish for +/- 6 hours/day over a long weekend for one hatchery brat?
     
  11. Evan Burck

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    Numbers are half what they were last year, and 1/4 what they were in 2009. I don't think most people have too high of expectactions. Nor should they.
     
  12. constructeur

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    Dear Penthouse...I once went Steelheading and instead spent all my time with forest nymphs...





















    .. or did you mean something else? :)
     
  13. Blake Harmon

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    where do you get those numbers?
    the counts I have seen just don't corroborate that bad of numbers.
     
  14. nick42

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    skunkings are the norm for sure. the Methow and Wenatchee are better suited for rafting than fishing.
     
  15. Oldtoy

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    Didn't see the date...funny though, got you to respond. ;)

    Cheers