Popper Magic!

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by olyfish, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. mtskibum16

    mtskibum16 Active Member

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    Yep maxima is great for leaders. I usually use 8 lb and haven't had a problem with breakage but don't have as much SRC experience as these other guys.
     
  2. Don Freeman

    Don Freeman Free Man

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    I never use less than 12# tippets, and that's premium grade fluoro. For instance the "cheaper" Rio Fluorflex is 8# test in a 2x. The Fluroflex PLUS is 12# in a 2x. The top Seaguar and Orvis are similar strength.

    Fish in the salt are not at all leader shy. You never know when the cutts you're targeting will send in a ringer. I can show you a picture of a 32" maybe 15 pound blackmouth I caught here in the south end. On 2x tippet and a size 4 SC-15.

    Point is, with all the time and energy I spend for a hook up, the last place I'll scrimp is the part that attaches to the fish.

    Also, you'll be able to land your smaller fish much faster, reducing stress mortality.
     
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  3. olyfish

    olyfish New Member

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    Don,
    Great tips. This makes so much sense, better fly turn-over, reduces mortality, and gives you a shot at that once in a lifetime hook-up.
    Thanks. Man, the South Sound is a great place!
     
  4. ak_powder_monkey

    ak_powder_monkey Proud to Be Alaskan

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    doesn't get much better than topwater fishing in saltwater, when the smolt start moving try a deer hair floating minnow thingy!
     
  5. olyfish

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    Is this what you mean by a deer hair floating minnow thingy?
     
  6. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    or this
     

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    ak_powder_monkey Proud to Be Alaskan

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    somthing more like this: use foam or deer hair and clip to that shape, I've found putting tubing over it makes it sink too much. I want it to sit in the surface film for a long time in between strips, make it look like a dying smolt.
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  8. zimdependent

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    It looks like you are doing this from a boat, Is this a method that I would see results in off the beach as well?
     
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    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    I like that "lord of the fry's" style fly too, but I don't know how I would do that with deer hair. spun or pulled back deer hair? flash?, Looks like I'll be doing some experimenting later.
     
  10. olyfish

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    I've been fishing for cutts from beaches. Although the boat is great for getting around, nothing like the simplicity of hitting a beach for a few hours with just a few flies and your rod.
     
  11. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    I'm finding that this is also working for me. I've been using nothing finer than 6# fluoro on my 4 wt rod, and 8# on my 6 wt. for my cutthroat fishing, as well as for all of my streamer fishing for trout in rivers and lakes, and I seem to get planty action. Works fine with a non-slip mono loop. I have been using just the "cheaper stuff," but I think I will not scrimp on leader and tippet in the future. 4X seems way too light for cutthroat beach fishing and streamer fishing, unless you are using small flies. 3X is as light as I usually go any more. Often I am using 8# 2X fluoro. I think I'm going to upgrade to the Fluoroflex Plus. And I really do prefer fluoro, because it sinks. Avoid the cheaper stuff, like Seaguar red fluoro. I borrowed some of that, and I thought it was inferior, loser crap, due to making weaker knots. It lost me a good fish. Pay up for the good stuff if ya wanna play with the big fish and win.

     
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    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    I strongly agree. All that time, energy and money spent, and then the absurdity of losing a good fish due to scrimping on tippet. Tch tch. I am always trying to root out false economies.

    However, today, although I know better, I was guilty of using the tip of my rod to free a fly from a submerged log. I broke a rod tip once doing that. Actually, I have done that twice. I was very careful today, though.:rolleyes:

     
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  13. Bradley Miller

    Bradley Miller Dances with fish

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    That is one beautiful boat.
     
  14. olyfish

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    Hey thanks! Best part: fits in the garage. Perfect place to take a nap and think about the next fishing outing.
     
  15. Bradley Miller

    Bradley Miller Dances with fish

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    Holy crap I want to be you.
     
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