Now I feel bad for hijacking the thread, Chasinchukar, there are plenty of greydiggers on the eastside, but finding adequate areas to get a lot of shooting takes some time, knocking on doors. I knew an area over near Yakima that had tons of sagerats, but they were hit and miss depending on the year. Right now the grass is too high for that specific area, but there are some places near E-Burg that have the (mostly private land). I've been stocking up on 223 for a trip over to Montana for p-dogs, since it's really about the only option for good shooting. WA is to sporadic unless you have some private access. Oregon would be a better option. I've got a heavy 22-250 AI, a heavy AR, a 17hmr, and a 22lr just itching for a trip. Oh, and I've seen the little buggers cannibalize themselves. One gets shot, the others come out and eat it. Recycling, weird stuff.