Your rod tip shouldn't "turn" or move the fly. Your rod shouldn't dictate the lines/flies swing aside from mending. You're trying to achieve a swing where the tip is aligned with the line and fly, but you are allowing the water's natural speed and flow to sway the speed of the swing--- the rod just follows the waters motion. In other words, everything is moving at the same speed, resulting in slight tension and just a little give. A good way to practice this is to start the tip high after the initial mend, then slowly drop the tip as you follow the course of the swing. If you're hanging up and you think everything is lined up, you're fishing too fast a tip for the water you're fishing. Remember, Fish will not move down to chase a fly and steelhead don't always sit on the bottom. To know you swinging well, you learn to feel that everything is moving at the same pace; you can feel it in your mind's eye. I don't think there’s any way to shorten the learning curve of this feeling aside from swinging your ass off. You'll know when you're doing it right when one of those bastards pulls back. :thumb: I hope that gibberish makes sense.