I find when I put the extra mojo into a cast I will get great distance and a freaking tangled mess of a line...I try and keep the forward haul lighter and that helps but my main question is with the line itself.. When your using an outbound etc. do you cut off the end loop and tie your leader on or do you make your own leader up? I'm wondering if you would use the 30lb, 20lb etc. method and if using a floating line how long is your leader?