Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by dragonslayer, Jan 27, 2014.
The pros: fly fishing is awesome.
The cons: I don't know about the rest.
i wont lie i cant cast a baitcaster. i skipped that bullshit and went straight for the elitist most difficult version of gear chucking. i center pinned for 3 weeks and said screw this i rather swing
Pros: waste of money
Cons: waste of time
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You'll grow hair on your palms and eventually go blind.
Quite frankly, if you want to drift fish...a 9-10.5' gear rod (or a centerpin outfit) is hard to beat. I'm not sure there are any true advantages to the fly rod in this scenario. Personally, I enjoy the "feel" of the fly rod more, and I enjoy fighting fish with the fly rod; I think that's generally what it amounts to for most people. The mass of the fly line gives me a certain "comfort" I don't get with a bunch of hydrofloat out the rod tip. A lot of the guys steelhead fishing these days come from an extensive trout background...there are definite advantages to nymph fishing for trout that you can't get using other tools...that doesn't quite translate over to steelhead fishing, but old habits die hard.
At the end of the day, use whatever works for you and makes you happy.
As someone who has used gear and extensively indicator fished for steelhead, I will say that effectiveness ultimately depends on the river system you are fishing. For small to medium rivers where you can cast most of the way across or work about every seem, then I honestly believe that nymphing with an indicator is truly an effective technique and I've done better with it than I did with gear. I also find that I tend to catch more fish than guys with gear who essentially do the same thing I'm doing. In fact I've gone as far as to set gear guys up with the same flies and then drifted behind them and I've caught more fish. I use heavily weighted flies and I rarely use split shot, so maybe that has something to do with it. When the gear guys are set up the same way, they can not cast the same flies without adding weight. They are also not able to mend their line the same way I am able to, so I'm not sure if they achieve the same drift. I've set gear people up for both steelhead and trout in rivers and the fly rod has always worked better. Now is it possible that the gear guys simply were not that good? Absolutely just as I've done the same for other fly guys and they also haven't caught anything.
Hope this helps, if not, feel free to ask more specific questions, and I'll see what I can come up with.
One of the pro's is that some people on the river will weep, softly to themselves, every time you hook a fish..
One of the con's is that some of the people on the river will openly hate you for not wanting to validate their fishing method..
One of the con's is that you don't feel the bite..
One of the pro's is that you get a visual queue..
One of the pro's is that you can fish deep slot water more efficiently..
One of the con's is that you can't cover the wider holding water as easily..
I once put my garcia mitchell 300 spin reel on my berkely glass fly rod and threw a royal coachman with a pautzke red fire ball egg all on 8 # mono. Eh gawds! the fly fishing gods rewarded me with a 18" red band from the williamson river, or. Adapt, overcome, improvise....do what Sgt. Gunny Highway would do.
.....as long as its legal.
The amount of effort and emotion people put into this subject will never cease to amaze me.
Well the steelhead forum is good entertainment in the winter!
This. The size and the kind of water are definitely factors for how effective or efficient nymphing is. Haters gonna hate, but it has its place. As does swinging.
This made me realy think about the kind of water I tend to focus on. In all honesty I have never really thought about the fact that swingin certain types of water would be more effective than indicatoring, I've just always made the indicator work in all types of water. Hmmm sopflyfisherman there might be hope for me yet. I might have to start swingin more often. Hell that last fish I caught swingin I would say I landed in not so good of swingin water.