Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Pat Lat, May 30, 2014.
wow my flies suck compared to those. im going to ruin this swap.
Dude, not at all, I'm hella insecure about my Clouser flies since people always talk up the more sparse the better, but I never know what too sparse is. Not only that, the gear guys know nothing about sparse and they catch fish too. The whole sparse thing is so confusing to me.
I entered this swap with some hesitation... I was the last person to sign up as I felt my skills might be lacking. However, I realized that by committing to it, I will gain much in knowledge of a style I don't tie very often. I use swaps to push my own envelope, therefore learning and perfection will occur for all of us and we will end up with some cool ties!
Your ties will be perfect! Just have fun and embrace the challenge!
Yeah I'm with ya. Gonna have to step up my clouser game for this one.
Flies are a different ballgame than gear. Too much material on a fly means no action...meaning swimming action. Big chunks of metal in fun shapes push water and bounce around...they don't swim like we want our flies to do. Hope that makes sense.
For bucktail, the flatwing magician Ken Abrams calls for EXACTLY 30 hairs in many of his recipes...meaning tail and wing each contain EXACTLY 30 hairs. That's a good guideline...but that's pretty anal. Measure 30, see what it looks like...then approximate from there. That should get you in the ballpark.
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That’s a huge help! Thanks! Do you happen to have any knowledge with regard to trailer line stiffness? If keeping the unsupported hook parallel when picking up the fly by the eyes is a big deal or not, or whether the trailer hook dangles down when picking up the fly by the eyes? I know that different hook sizes weigh different so maybe that’s not a huge issue. I know these may be basic questions but I’m taking the opportunity to get educated here.
Funny as this thread has sparked my interested in the “study” of Clouser flies – I’ve seen a book online somewhere by Bob Clouser I think on tying various Clouser flies… I may have to pinch some pennies and save to get that.
I personally use 30# fireline when I want a chartreuse lateral line and on smaller flies. I started using it because that's what I line my baitcasters with.
I use 80 lb. powerpro for the bigger flies. Just gotta be careful and choose stinger hooks sized accordingly. Nothing worse than tying a stinger only to realize the hook eye is too small for the line.
Maybe somebody else can find the thread specific to clouser stingers. I recall SF mentioning doing some experimentation and settling on 80lb powerpro for his clousers.
Looks like a lot of consensus on 30lb fireline here...
Stiff stinger loops help keep the hook from fouling. You can also double up the 30#if you're in a pinch but the heavier stuff is nice.
I'll base all my flies in this swap on a 1/0 octopus hook
Just saw this, really jealous I didn't get in on this when it came up. Nice looking flies so far.
Well, I found some 40lb Fireline and went with that based on the thread diameter, I probably could have gone stiffer but I wanted these flies to be multi purpose use, for SRC and Coho, the 1/0 hook def does not hang straight back, but I've sampled that on some stiff mono and even then it's got a "lean"..
Gonna do a little production run today, and knock 'em out...I switched it up a bit, can't help it, which is why I need to knock 'em out before I change my mind yet again. I've got issues.
So how did they turn out?
Mine are in the mail
I was late to this. Will you please post pics?