Quail shot size?

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  1. andrew

    andrew Active Member

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    Are 6's overkill for quail?
     
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    Roper Idiot Savant

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    Yup, stick with 7's or 7 1/2's...IMHO. And don't forget about the non-tox rules this year...read up on your regs.
     
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    Unless it's one big ass quail!! I use 6's for pheasants. Roper's got the recipe, 7's or 7 1/2's.
     
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    If you are in chukar/quail country what I do is use 7.5s in the chamber followed by 6s. I dont prefer to shoot quail with 6s but I'd rather be ready for the chukars and overkill for the quail.
     
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    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    Quail are my favorite upland bird and I shoot 71/2's unless, as others have said, there is a good chance of larger upland birds in the area.
     
  6. andrew

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    Thanks all!

    David - exactly why I threw the box of 6's in my ammo can...

    Roper - I was able to punch out 37 rounds of NICE #7.5 (1 ounce loads) out of the tiny ass little bag I bought...these I'm saving for the 'clean' areas. As well I cranked out 2 boxes of 1 ounce #8 too.

    Since I'm bringing my 11-48 I'll load the first two rounds with #8 and the third with a #6. If we bump more huns/chukar (supposedly are in the area we intend on walking) I'll switch to 6's.

    Searching for this answer on google I came across an article that seemed really backasswards...basically when able to use lead you should shoot #9 for ultimate pattern density and that what you loose in pellet effectiveness/velocity related to distance is made up by more pellets on target. The guy went on to say he hunts phesants with #9 and takes them from 20-35 yards! This seems sketchy to me.

    Good luck all!

    Andrew
     
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    Andrew, I'll bet you found the post on the 16ga forum about using #9 shot. It's doable, you have to bump up your velocity a bit, that helps maintain more kinetic energy longer.

    Good work on loading up some NiceShot. For the amount of actual shots taken, non-tox is not too bad. I still don't have much love for steel...
     
  8. Gary Thompson

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    Has anyone found any good deals on non-toxic shells in #6.
    I don't mind shooting pheasants with #4 steel, but what a mess on quail.
    I'm not planning on hunting the release sites, but ya never know when ya might want to stop for a short hunt, I would hate to pass up quail just cause my shot is to heavy.
     
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    Ha, Gary, I always had that problem last year, see lots of quail any time I have too big of shot. Once while I was pheasant hunting, after bumping 5 or so small groups of quail and no pheasant I switched away from 4s back to 7 1/2 shot, only to immediately flush a rooster which got away in spite of a good hit with too small of shot. And I can't even count how many other times quail got away because I wasn't willing to shoot with the shot I had in the gun.
     
  10. andrew

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    Gary,

    I have a case of of 3" hevi steel #6 that was the result of a botched online order, their error, couldn't be returned so I got 50% off the case. I've only used two boxes or so out the 10 in three years. So next time we chase some birds I'll bring ya a few...
     
  11. ganglyangler

    ganglyangler Bird Dogs and Fly Rods

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    Troutrageous, I have had the same thing happen many times myself. Pretty frustrating! I generally just run steel #3's for pheasant and duck while hunting, and have a handful of steel #7 for the quail if I get into them thick. Seems to work ok. Would like to get some Hevi shot to try out this year. Seems like its good stuff!
     
  12. Gary Thompson

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    Right on Andrew.
    What ya doin for the eastern pheasant opener?
    I'm going to take the 24th and 25th off from work and camp @ Banks lake.
    A "blast and cast"
    Gonna hit the hi-way strip in the AM for some quail.
     
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    One of the reasons to hunt with a SxS or O/U. Different shot size in each barrel.
     
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    perfect decoying duck load.
     
  15. andrew

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    Yep...exactly where I used the first two boxes. My problem now is that I have a lifetime and then some of duck loads...I inherited a SBE and two cases or more of 3.5 #1 (aka 'shoulder busters').