Quilcene area of MA 12 opens tomorrow

Jim Wallace

Smells like low tide.
#16
Jim,
You should start a tour business. You could make the circuit to all the know snag and flossfest sites.
The Skok, Minter Creek, Quilcene etc....;)
SF
Never been to Minter, and I've only fished the Killscene thrice! I fished upstream for trout once in the Skok, but avoid the salmon fishing there. I have acquaintances who fish the lower Skok, though, and they keep me informed.

I probably should go fish the Skok for Kings with a local dude I know who likes to fish there, but I don't like crowded rivers. I don't mind gear fishing for hatchery fish though, as long as I can avoid the mob scenes. Its a good way to catch some food and have a good time. I prefer casting spinners and spoons over drifting corkies, though. I have some spots that are decent for fly fishing for Coho and Chums, but I usually don't fly fish the hatchery runs in the popular water below hatcheries.

I know of some lesser know snagging spots where I could take the camera toting eco tourists and get 'em freaked out, and probably freak out the snaggers at the same time. The flossers out here are so good that they would hardly be noticeable.
The really primo snagger tour would take place at night, and we'd have to sneak up on them. Blind 'em with camera flash, and then get out quick before their eyesight recovered and they started shooting.:eek: Back up on "jackhole crik," for example.
You won't find a creek of that name on any map, though. (I gave it that nickname because an early settler named John Hole homesteaded the land near the river mouth in the area).
 

Jim Wallace

Smells like low tide.
#19
I've never fished the river there but is it worse than the Puyallup during the pink run?
I've never fished for salmon in the Puke. The Killscene is a small river. The first time I fished it(was 3 days in a row) the hatchery Coho had just begun migrating up from the Bay en masse, and the word got out quick. On one long stretch of pools I fished, there were about 30 anglers, about 5 or 6 feet apart at the most, and some were bumping elbows.
Next time I went back was the following year, and it was nearly as bad.
The time after that on the river, snaggers and rude anglers crowding me out ruined it for me.
I tried fishing off the mouth once from the shore (that would make it 4 times). I waded out in hip boots, saw a lot of fish, none of them biting. A guy in waders waded out past me and sort of corked me off from half of my casting area. A gauntlet of snaggers had lined up on the bank at the first run up (would be covered by Bay water on the top of a good high tide), and suddenly I felt like I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I left and went home, where I can usually fish from a boat, or only have to deal with fewer other anglers fishing the same stretch from the bank, at most, one every 15 or 20 feet. Sometimes you will see a small group of friends fishing together closer than that around here, but we usually try to give each other room to cast and retrieve without having to get some kind of a hogline rhythm going and casting over each others' lines.

Seems like the rudest anglers I see around here are from outside the area. Anglers that are used to the Skok scene, and probably the Puke, etc. They probably have gotten used to that kind of shit and now believe that it is normal, and practice it wherever they go, spreading the disease.

The hard core snaggers and poachers out here are a different story.
 

Stonefish

Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater
#20
I used to enjoy fishing the Puyallup. I caught my first steelhead the in 1968 and it was my home river.
We never fished it for salmon, only steelies in the winter.
It is a great place to get your rig broken into during salmon season. It has become a littered up shit hole that you won't catch me anywhere near any longer.
Salmon will bite in that dirty water, but good luck with that. Trying to fish with 20 other dudes tossing 10 ft leaders and black corkies in the same hole is a complete joke.
SF
 

dryflylarry

"Chasing Riseforms"
#22
I think it is TIME! Time for WDFW to designate "no gear days" during a period/day/s each week to minimize conflicts on some of these places. Good grief Charlie Brown!! :eek:
 

Joepa

Joe from PA
#23
Lockjaw is an understatement
Funny. Indeed, I have a colleague that has a house on the bay. In the 6 or so years that she has lived there, neither she or her husband has ever hooked a silver (gear or fly) and she goes out most mornings and still tries when the tide is high. I always get the word from her when the fish show up and usually fish it once a year thinking eventually I'll figure it out. But I've never hooked a silver there either, and I've fished over swarms and swarms of fish. Its like they are in some sort of traumatized state where they can see their impending doom waiting in those tribal nets.
 

orangeradish

Eyes to the sky...
#25
I think it is TIME! Time for WDFW to designate "no gear days" during a period/day/s each week to minimize conflicts on some of these places. Good grief Charlie Brown!! :eek:
I think it's time for WDFW to enforce the fucking rules that are already in place.

I went there once, and it was the most depressing shitshow I have ever witnessed in my life. I'll never set foot in that place again. I don't care if 15lb silvers are jumping into my waders. Salmon tastes good, but nothing is worth putting up with that clusterfuck.
 

dryflylarry

"Chasing Riseforms"
#26
I think it's time for WDFW to enforce the fucking rules that are already in place.

I went there once, and it was the most depressing shitshow I have ever witnessed in my life. I'll never set foot in that place again. I don't care if 15lb silvers are jumping into my waders. Salmon tastes good, but nothing is worth putting up with that clusterfuck.

Exactly! Good description!
 

Jim Wallace

Smells like low tide.
#27
I have to drive over both the Skokomish and the Killscene to take the shorter route when I go visit my dad. That's after crossing over the Elk and the Johns as I leave the beach, then over the Chehalis, 'Nooch and Satsop as I head inland from the Harbor. I have to make it past Hoodsport, too.

Longer route takes me over the local criks and the Chehalis, but I hang a Louie instead of a Roscoe and head West, going over the Hoquiam, then hook North over the Hump, Quinault, Queets, Hoh, Bogey, Calawah, Sol Duc, around Lake Cresent and over the Elwha, and finally.... over the Dungeness.

Then I usually go beach fishing for searun cutts.

I never seem to have the time to stop and fish the rivers until I leave from the rain shadow area and head back home, where there is no one who is expecting me to arrive on time.:confused: The complete counter-clockwise loop is the best route.
 

Jim Wallace

Smells like low tide.
#28
One issue I had with fishing the Quilcene (yes.... I have fished there) was all the summer chum in it making it hard to target silvers.
Yep. You finally made a decent cast and are stripping your fly in front of a Coho when a dang Chum runs interference and catches your leader on its dorsal fin, drawing your fly right to it, forcing you to abandon your retrieve and execute a light roll cast, so as to flick your fly off the back of the dog without setting the hook. You don't want to hook one of those Summer Chum in the dorsal fin. Nuthin but trouble, those Summer Chums!
 
#29
Have a friend that fishes gear. He was at Quilcene bay on the 16th and did incredibly well for silvers. All 3 people on the boat limited, and he says he could have filled his entire 20' boat with silvers if he wanted. Said it's only been like that for him a few times, and usually the day after they'd quit biting.

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Scott Salzer

previously micro brew
#30
I have had a blast fishing for silvers in the shallow water, 4-5', with the flyrod. They like the bead head olive woolly bugger. And yes, they were fairly caught. The river is a joke and I would never suggest that area. Look for fish staging in the shallows and have at it.

MB