Ready for Bamboo

Discussion in 'Bamboo, Fiberglass & Classic Reels' started by deerfield, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2003
    Messages:
    2,162
    Likes Received:
    698
    Location:
    Outer Duvall
    Well, it seems there is a bit of local interest. So here are my thoughts and suggestions.

    To attempt to expand this into a full fledged conclave type event is to ask for far more work than most of us are probably willing to do, plus it will take far more time to get it organized so lets keep it simple.

    We need a volunteer to be the point of contact.
    All interested parties PM that person with their email address.
    Through private email we settle on a date and location that suits the majority.
    I suggest McDonald park at the confluence of the Tolt and Snoqualmie rivers. There is lots of grass and lots of water.
    We all show up, meet new rods and have some fun.

    The sooner this happens the better. The weather might not cooperate much longer.
    Everyone and anyone is invited.

    To get things rolling someone needs to volunteer as contact point.
    It won't be me. I already work in the exhibits and events industry.

    TC
     
  2. martinrjensen

    martinrjensen BambooBoy

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2005
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Home Page:
    I would love to so this. I do a lot of traveling in the winter months especially (I'm up in St Paul Island in Alaska right now) but if I'm home, I'm in. I could bring several rods for people to look at and cast. Good chance to meet other local rod makers too!
    martin
     
  3. Canedawg

    Canedawg Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 1969
    Messages:
    214
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    .
    I could Bring along a W.M. Stream and lake. I have sold all my Cane rods except that and a W.M. Victory. If anyone sets this up,let me know. I should be able to make it unless the Huskies are playing.
     
  4. martinrjensen

    martinrjensen BambooBoy

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2005
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Home Page:
    You have a Victory? What length? I built a 2 piece 8.5 ft'er copied off of a 3 piece WM Victory. Nice taper. It is a nice rod. I cast a WF 7 on it but you could cast a 6 wt too. Use it mostly for nymph fishing. Love to see yours. Hope this thing gets airborne.
    martin
     
  5. Demon Spey

    Demon Spey New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Bremerton Wa
    WOW I would love to be a part of this. I have a question
    (Not to hijack this post) On a cane rod how do you determin the line Wt of the rod ???? I have been wondering this since I use to have 3-4 cane rods at one time (I made a terrible mistake selling them):mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  6. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2004
    Messages:
    7,183
    Likes Received:
    1,295
    Location:
    Not sure
    Most bamboo rods are marked on the shaft with their line weights.

    Rods from the 1940s through 1960s may have been marked with the pre-AFTMA letter weights instead of a number (HDG, GDG, etc.) Rods without a marked line weight may have been made before WWII (when pretty much all trout rods were intended for the equivalent of a modern 6wt) or they may have the victim of an overly-zealous refinishing job which removed the previous marks. Rods from a few makers were all built for a single line weight (ie. Grangers) and may not be marked at all.

    Finally, it's possible that you may have had one or two of the tens of thousands of cheap Japanese bamboo rods that flooded the US immediately after WWII. Often unmarked, these were usually made from a lesser grade of bamboo and of poor quality workmanship. Most are worthless except as wall decorations.

    K
     
  7. Northlake27

    Northlake27 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Twisp wa, us.
    Don't mean to get off the subject but I just finished "Casting a Spell" by George Black, if you are a bamboo fly rod fan like me I highly reccommend reading this book. lots of history from Leonard to Glenn Bracket. Some real insight into what makes us bamboo rod builders tick. Can't say enough good things about this book.
    I too would be interested to attend a gathering of cane nuts.
     
  8. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2003
    Messages:
    2,162
    Likes Received:
    698
    Location:
    Outer Duvall
    I heartily second the recommendation of Casting a Spell.
    An excellent book for anyone with an interest in a unique segment of Americana.

    Also, I have attached an AFTMA to Silk Line conversion chart. The older lines and line ratings that Kent refers to were originally based on braided silk lines

    TC
     
  9. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2004
    Messages:
    7,183
    Likes Received:
    1,295
    Location:
    Not sure
    Tim and northlake77, thanks for posting your recommendation on 'Casting a Spell' I was unaware of the book (it appears to have a 2006 copyright date according to Amazon.com). Amazon also has an excerpt from the first chapter available at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/pr.../104-2322611-2255160?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books That bit reminds me of John Gierach's 'Fishing Bamboo', another good primer on bamboo rod history and lore.

    Tim, thanks too for sharing the AFTMA to silk conversion chart. I think there's one in Ray Gould's book, my copy of which I've unfortunately loaned to someone I can't remember. It wasn't you was it?

    K
     
  10. Cliff

    Cliff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2004
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    Seattle, WA.
    Hope I'm not too lake on this thread. Kent's suggestion of mining for info on Clark's Classic Rod site is right on. I didn't know that Ray G. closed up, either. I'm sorry to hear that.

    There used to be a broker of some sort who lived north, around Arlington, I think. I discovered him by replying to an add on ebay. Since so much boo ends up on ebay you may also want to try isolating a PNW sale and see if they have a stockpile.

    I agree with Kent (again) on the idea of getting together. Kent and I got together a year or so ago and cast each other's rods while at a Hi Laker meeting, which was a real kick. It's absolutely the best way, short of actually fishing, to find out how a rod feels to you. This is one of the things that makes bamboo so much fun; their casting characteristics are much more varied than graphite. At least to those of us who fish it. I would be happy to bring my lumber to a get together. I also have a bamboo rodbuilder friend who is an impeccable rodbuilder and makes some of the finest rods I've ever seen or cast (Kent will vouch for that).

    Cliff
    Seattle
     
  11. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2004
    Messages:
    7,183
    Likes Received:
    1,295
    Location:
    Not sure
    Cliff, wasn't that your Robert Kope quad? That was real beauty. I wish we could have cast it in the daylight instead of that dark and stormy night!

    Another fellow who used to post here but moved to Ellensburg or Yakima last year and I got together and cast some rods as well. He had just received a Kusse quad that was a rocket. I'd like to have been able to compare it directly with your Kope quad. (Of course, if it compared favorably, then Robert would begin raising his prices!) Seems to me the Kusse cost in the $2500 range with a couple year wait.

    K
     
  12. Dblhaul

    Dblhaul Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 1969
    Messages:
    74
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Thrall, WA
    Hi Kent,

    Glad you remembered our fun get together at the winery, I had a blast playing with cane and would be very interested in getting together with more folks again.
    The collection continues to grow, have added another quad and a hex or two, and another on order.

    Take care,

    Steve
     
  13. Canedawg

    Canedawg Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 1969
    Messages:
    214
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    .
    Martin,the Victory is a 8' 6". I use a D.T. and W.F. 5 # weight on it when I fish.`Right now I have a broken tip on one section. I broke it on Rock Creek in the same area I broke a tip about 5 years ago. I am going to have someone do a repair wrap on it in the next few months.
     
  14. martinrjensen

    martinrjensen BambooBoy

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2005
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Home Page:
    That's a nice rod. Same as mine (or ast least the tpaer I used) How bad it the tip broken? straight of or is it splintered. If it's splintered there are (usually) not too hard to fix. I had a buddy (still a buddy) roll a rod tip up in an electric window. he ended up replacing his graphite rod. I just reglued mine and it is still fishing great today.
    martin
     
  15. Canedawg

    Canedawg Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 1969
    Messages:
    214
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    .
    It is straight

    I am going to contact Jeff Poe to repair it. He restored the rod and it looks new. He does beautiful work,but I have lost his e-mail address. If anyone has it, please let me know