Restaurant serving wild steelhead

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by TomB, Mar 19, 2007.

  1. Dale Dennis

    Dale Dennis Formally Double-D

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    Thanks Less and to all those envolved in nipping this in the bud. Legal or not, all here should know its just wrong.
     
  2. chadk

    chadk Be the guide...

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    Is it true that the wild steelhead on the menu was replaced with beer battered spotted owl?? Probably just a rumor...
     
  3. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Les == the man! Thanks a ton for this...
     
  4. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Why serve owl when it only tastes like chicken? Now Bald Eagle... that's another thing... You gotta avoid the ones that are eating salmon carcasses as they taste all skanky... But the ones that eats nothing but berrys and sweet grass... YUM!
     
  5. Jeremy Floyd

    Jeremy Floyd fly fishing my way through life

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    My take on this is vote differently and get the laws changed instead of harassing a guy for obeying the law.
     
  6. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Agreed, having the law changed would be a good thing (if one doesn't already exist). But I would state that we as a whole aren't harassing someone. It is well within reason to state a contrary opinion on any product by any company. To not do so would be completely un-american! :)
     
  7. TomB

    TomB Active Member

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    you volunteering to take on Boldt? good luck with that one. I hardly see it as harassment for a group of consumers to actively and vocally show their preferences for environmentally sound decisions in the restaurant business. Are the many americans demanding more fuel-efficient cars 'harassing' GM and Ford? I don't think so.

    And for voting...a little thing called checks and balances which is part of our constitution, aims at preventing voters from determining outcomes in the judicial branch...if the system is working...voting alone will not change Boldt....there is certainly progress to be made with the Dept of fish and wildlife though, and believe me, my vote is conscious of that.
     
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    they stopped selling it due to pressure from conservation and angling groups like ourselves
     
  9. cjsmith

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    People with pictures of themselves holding fish out of the water (for a picture) before releasing should be more concerned with their own conservation practices before getting upset with a restaurant serving wild steelhead.
     
  10. JS

    JS Active Member

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    Prepare to be flamed....:eek:

    The difference here guy is this, wild steelies that are hung slightly above the water for a photo have a bit (noted sarcasm on "bit") more of a chance to contribute to the gene pool than one served up in a yuppie resaurant.
     
  11. chadk

    chadk Be the guide...

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    Mortality rate for a quick picture is what? Any idea?

    Mortality rate for a knucklehead's dinner plate = 100%.

    Figure it out genius...


    Oh, welcome to the board ;)
     
  12. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    First post... bold... strong... but not smooth... I'd rate it a 6 out of 10 for the trollieness :)

    Welcome to the board :)
     
  13. cjsmith

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    My point is that lifting a fish out of the water for a picture contributes to the physiological stress that increases fish mortality. Is it 3%.....10% i don't know...obviously less than 100%. Do I have a problem with fisherman doing this...not really but thats why I am not speaking out against restaurants serving wild steelhead. If i was spearheading a campaign to stop this practice in restaurants I would definately look at my own fishing practices first. Its kind of like the environmentalist activist who preeches about global warming who owns 3 large homes and flys in private jets.....falls on deaf ears.
     
  14. chadk

    chadk Be the guide...

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    it's a catch 22... it is most often the guys who are passionate about fishing for wild steelhead who are the most outspoken when it comes to protecting them.

    Or, are you a passionate steelheader who could care less what happens to wild fish? Or you like the idea of 100% hatchery brats in our future? Give us a little more of your perspective if you will...
     
  15. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Agreed. But before we get to far down the road of no return, let's evaluate the major posters on this particular thread:

    TomB - He's the complete soup nazi in terms of fish out of water. Take a look at his post history and what he says in the foto gallery. The man is so intense about keeping fish in the water, that he strips to his skivvies and dives in the like he's on fire when he hooks a steelhead (picture Ricky Bobby)...

    Les - Fishing legend. Was one of the motivators for getting the SRC on the path of a C&R season.

    In sum total everyone would agree with what you are saying, but at the same time, the folks you are speaking to are a part of the solution, not the problem. If you feel that I'm in error, please privately PM me and we can discuss further.

    Beyond that, I must say that chadk has it right. A fish out of water results in a % chance of mortality. A fish on a dinner plate certainly has 0% chance of survival.

    -- Cheers
    -- James