Reverse/Backhanded Single Spey Question

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by James Waggoner, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. James Waggoner

    James Waggoner Active Member

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    I wanted to publicly thank Forrest "Hoopa" for meeting me down at the river this morning and shooting video of me casting the reverse single spey....the video is a nice way to really see what's going on. Thanks Forrest!

    If anyone else has a video of themselves casting a Reverse Single, I'd like to see it.

    By the way, the river was beautiful...snowed while we were there, it was awesome! A perfect winter day on the water.
     
  2. DocDoc

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    James, is the DDC with the intermediate belly? If so it takes a little more work to get it out of the water and landing right. Peter Charles has some suggestions on his site. ww.hooked4life.ca/glsteelhead/Home.html (add w). It includes a bigger than normal dip. With a floating line it would cause a "bloody-l", but with a sinking line it works.
     
  3. golfman65

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    here you go...
     
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    Y U no have someplace pretty to practice?! Wow... Such a lovely location... You got a little upward creep as the loop is forming on your forward. :clown: Everyone's a critic!
     
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    Learn to cast left hand up! Seriously the reverse single will never go further than a left hand up single spey and will only get worse if youever go up in line length. .......just saying.
     
  6. James Waggoner

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    Thanks Golfman. That's really cool. What's your set up...Is that a full floater? That video has got me thinking summer and the joy of lighters lines, floaters and smaller flys.

    I'm currently using a 8/9 intermediate DDC belly cut to 39' (tip and belly length, around 450grains). Peter Charles site is a great source of information, been in my favorites for over a year now. AS far as casting left hand up, I'm not sure I'll ever get there, but who knows... I might as well try right...nothing else to do on the river but cast anyway.
     
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    I NEVER thought I would learn it but all it takes is to actually do it and keep at it. It will make you a better allaround caster as it makes you think about what you are doing, whereas if you cast well on the right already and just keep casting right hand up you just kind of do it on auto pilot.
     
  8. James Waggoner

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    Perhaps, Forrest can post my video up...then you guys can feel free to poke fun, knit-pick or give sound advice. The video quality is pretty good, but the DDC and my black amnesia running line do not show up at all. Pretty much looks like I'm shadow casting on the river. I'll try to get back on the water this evening and work on the Left hand UP thing. I'm kind of left handed anyway so shouldn't be impossible.
     
  9. golfman65

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    That's not me but a buddy of mine...fishing some secret water up north...he was trying out my rod, an 11' meiser switch rod with a scandi head and mono leader....the stick at the front is the running line dragging in the current in front of him...he just pulls the whole thing off and flick's it....Bruce knows who he is..and maybe some others will after this years SOR...

    I without a doubt totally agree Kruk...left hand up is the way to go...I cast like this vid. and it's fine with shooting heads out to 50' but left hand high is so much better and allows you to do more with longer lines..
     
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    First year at SOR is the learning curve so Tim will have to take that into consideration but every dog has his day lol!
     
  11. TimDog

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    Hello all, glad to join this cool forum after lurking about for a while. Although I appreciate the votes of confidence, my attendance at SOR this year is so I can learn a few things and get my butt kicked. If I can improve my casting from learning and watching the worlds best casters then I would consider that a winning experience!!!!! There's a big difference between making a big cast in a pond with nobody around and making a big cast with the worlds best watching, the guys who do well in this thing must have nerves of steel! I also look forward to seeing you at our speyclave Bruce, we missed you last year! I've heard your casting is looking awesome as usual, but also that you are reaching some incredible distances. I look forward to annoying you with lots of questions in April!;)
     
  12. golfman65

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    damn...dog be slumming to be on here...
     
  13. TimDog

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    Also, I must commiserate with Bruce on learning the left hand up for the single spey and snake roll. With the shorter heads a reverse single can be an effective cast, however with longer lines it seems to me (in my limited long line experience),that it is very difficult to lengthen your stroke as is needed to get those big distances that the great long liners like Bruce, Brian, and those unreal Carron boys achieve. Learning left hand up casting has been very difficult for me but a very rewarding experience as well, it is still very ugly for me but I hope with practice that it will get better
     
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    Sorry to say Tim I wont be able to be there this year either, it falls on the weekend before SOR and I am flying down from Spokane on Monday night so its kind of a no go time wise for me.......unless you can get Dave to pay for my plane ticket to Van! ha ha ha
    If you have any questions for me just fire away.
     
  15. TimDog

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    Thats a shame Bruce, looks like I will annoy you with many questions between the 10th and 16th then!!!!