Rio Skagit Flight vs Airflo compact skagit

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Flyn'dutchman, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. Steelie Mike

    Steelie Mike Active Member

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    I thought the Rio Flight was descent, but with a bit too much rear taper. It just doesn't want to turn over crisp, especially with larger flies.
     
  2. k2flyfisher

    k2flyfisher You're only so smart as what you choose to share.

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    frumpy. saddlebags. too long of a rear taper. doesnt want to wedge and comes off the water like a walrus. thats my take on it. "it throws small flies well"?!?!? give me a break. if its going to be called a "skagit" then it better be able to turn over big flies. their original skagit was much better.
     
  3. stewart dee

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    I like the flight with lots of bottom hand and a full season to dial it in. I like Airflo on windy days. Crappy loops and a fish on!
     
  4. DoubleL

    DoubleL A guy who loves to fish

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    I like the new Flight skagit line just fine, and liked the old skagit line just fine as well. I did find that I needed about 25 more grains in total line weight with the Flight have the same "feel" with my typical flies and 15 feet of T14. I was able to achieve tighter loops like a tapered line should, but that was never a desire of mine for winter fishing.
     
  5. Red Shed

    Red Shed "junkyard spey"

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    This is what I've found when comparing the Compact skaj and the Flight. For me the Flight just seems to need to be a size or so heavier to preform the same as the skagit compact.

    Also if one compares the Flight to the Rio skagit in Rio's chart one will find the recommended Flight is heavier then the standard skagit.

    I think they are both pretty nice lines.
     
  6. Two-Hand

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    Hey Sothereiwas,

    RIO was the company that came out with the first commercially available Skagit Lines about six years ago, it was Airflow and Sci Anglers that followed RIO's lead, not the other way around. That seems pretty original and meaningful.

    -TH
     
  7. sothereiwas

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    They came out with a block of a line that they obviously put a lot of R&D into. Airflow has put out two great skagit lines since then that actually took some designing and time on the water to produce and rio's answer to that is a Scandinavian/skagit bastard that fills a niche that's hardly ground breaking and does nothing but show they have no imagination.
     
  8. Red Shed

    Red Shed "junkyard spey"

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    Rio has done plenty...

    No matter what one's opinion of the Flight, no one can deny that Rio has been in the vanguard of two hand line development in the US. They were giving us great lines for two handers in a time when one of the US line company BIG BOYS was telling us that the two hand market wasn't big enough to even warrant their time. That company has been playing catchup in the two hand market every since.
     
  9. attack

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    Rio has done plenty...

    you guys are comparing apples and oranges...different lines with different characteristics and different purposes....to turn over a chicken the compact or the regular rio skagit are the way to go...to have slightly more grace the flight may be the answer...
     
  10. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Rio has done plenty...

    I'd agree with the statement except for the fact that Rio discontinued the old style Skagit heads. If they wanted it to be apples and oranges, then there would still be an alternative. One can still purchase the full spey skagit body, but it's $99 and with running line that's not exactly the best or most useful.
     
  11. Red Shed

    Red Shed "junkyard spey"

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    Rio has done plenty...

    I find the Airflo Compact Skagit and the Rio Flight to be quite similar in design so it would be apples to apples
     
  12. NomDeTrout

    NomDeTrout Fly Guy Eat Pie

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    Rio has done plenty...

    not to mention its not too far fetched to compare the two since they are both skagit lines...marketed as such towards the same demographic.
    i don't see anythign wrong with comparing the two.
     
  13. rick matney

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    Tell us how you really feel Brad! For the record I hate Rio lines for everything. They break easily, have shitty tapers and are basically half-assed lines with a full ass model price tag.

    Just my opinion. If it is worth anything....probably not but , oh well.
     
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    I can't compare the Rio Skagit Fight to the Airflo Compact Skagit since I've never fished the Compact Skagit, but thought I'd throw in my two cents on the Flight given how many have already ragged on it. I fished a 550 Skagit Flight on two different rods over three days this past weekend - a Sage 9140 and a Sage 7141. I bought the line last week for my 9140, but after a day and a half I switched it over to the 7141 because in my hands that rod is better in windy conditions than the 9140 (and at time we were getting blasted by heavy winds). Most of the time I was fishing a 12 foot tip of T-14. I did not fish any small flies, though I didn't fish any super-huge, heavily weighted Intruder-style flies, either. I fished 4"+ string leeches, smaller (2-3") intruder style flies, Pick-yer-pockets, largish tubes and other stuff. I thought the Flight performed very well, particularly on the 7141. In the right hands, the Flight should have no problem casting most big flies. Since I didn't fish 5-inch Intruders with heavy dumbell eyes, I can't say for sure how the Flight would do with that sort of fly. That said, the last day fishing I strung up the 7141 with my go-to Skagit set up for that rod - a Rio Skagit 550 and a 5' cheater - and with about the same amount of effort was getting another 15-20 feet on my casts fishing the same kind of stuff. For me, that line set-up is the perfect combo with the 7141. Given Poppy's and other comments, I am thinking that going up to a heavier grain weight with the Flight might make for a better match to the 7141. I have a number of Airflo lines (including a couple Delta multi-tip lines and a couple single hand multi-tip lines) and I like them a lot. My experience with their loops, however, has not been as good as it seems others have had. None of the loops on my Rio lines have ever failed. Not the case with my Airflos. No big deal as I just replace the factory loops with my own. I really like Airflo's stuff but thought I would jump to the Flight's defense because it really is a pretty good line - certainly not as bad in my opinion as some of the reviews on this thread would lead you to believe.