River closure

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by skyrise, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. Jason Rolfe

    Jason Rolfe Wanderer

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    On second thought--Deleted.

    I'm not going to get into this with you because there is clearly no point in doing so.

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  2. Chris Johnson

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    http://nativefishsociety.org/wp-con...al-populations-associated-with-hatcheries.pdf

    http://nativefishsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/Chilcote-et-al-2011-h-w-reduced-recruitment.pdf

    There's some readin for ya finluvr.

    Your argument are specious at best. The reason people call hatchery fish inferior is (imo), they are not just artificially propagated but are raise in a controlled environment thus subverting the process of natural selection until they head to the ocean. Comparing that to artificial insemination is "apples and oranges".
     
  3. Salmo_g

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  4. ambassadeur10000

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    Is a 20 pound hatchery fish still a 20 pounder?
     
  5. FinLuver

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    "Did you know that ODFW originally stocked Siletz summer steelhead in Willamette tributaries, but they didn't work? Then they stocked Skamania hatchery strain in the same tributaries, and those are the successful hatchery summer steelhead programs you have there now."

    "Inferior is an appropriate word choice when referring to the success of most hatchery fish spawning and reproducing in the natural environment. Less successful is also appropriate and accurate. However, your remarks about artificial insemination and test tube babies is a strong indication that you don't understand science very well at all. And that is perhaps why your criticisms in this forum are garnering so much negative feedback.

    Sg....THANK YOU for proving my point!! :D

    OH...and I didn't say anything about "100% probability" science...

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  6. DanielOcean

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  7. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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  8. DanielOcean

    DanielOcean Steelhead Virgin

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    CLEAR THE BENCH.
     
  9. ambassadeur10000

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    It's interesting that there is so much natural reproduction with the strains of steelhead in the Great Lakes
     
  10. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

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    "ALL the books"
    There you go again with more over the top BS.
    I have lots of books about steelhead with none of these photos you describe. I know you would like for us to think that you have, and have read, "ALL" the books, but I can assure you that you have not.

    And no one has proved your point...because you don't have one. :)

    There are a bunch of guys that also have everything all figured out waiting for you over at Gamefishin'...:D
     
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  11. FinLuver

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    "I have lots of books about steelhead..."

    Good for you WW...someday I hope you'll take the time to read them.;)
     
  12. Chris Johnson

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    Are you related to.....never mind.
     
  13. skyrise

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    so with such a down year Tokul creek gets the best returns in puget sound and has met their egg take ?
    i guess i should forget the sky and fish the snocrappy from now on ? weird year.
     
  15. constructeur

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    River Jim from Gamefishin'?