running lines for compacts

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  1. Creatch'r

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    Just wondering what the latest and greatest is for those dedicated skagiteers in the crowd. Looking for a new running line wondering what you guys are liking these days. I know there are lots of old threads covering this topic but it seems like guys are trying out new stuff all the time. Thanks!
     
  2. Ian Broadie

    Ian Broadie Flyfishing is so "Metal"

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    What running line are you using now and what are you looking to get out of a different running line? I currently use running lines by RIO, Airflo, Guideline, SRO, and SA. All of them have pluses and minuses but my two favorites for heavy winter work are the SRO Ballistic .038 and the RIO Powerflex core .035. The Airflo ridge is also good as well but seems to tangle a bit more when it gets cold.

    I also have a setup that is strictly for distance casting and use Amnesia for the running line so I can shoot farther... so for pure distance a mono running line of any sort of quality will add distance to a cast due to the reduced diameter of the line. The biggest draw back to a mono running line I can think of is with shorter head mending can be a pain sometimes at higher distances and if one tangles mono running line it can be worlds of fun untangling it.
     
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    I have monic on my compacts. Reacts well in all temps and good memory.
     
  4. Evan Burck

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    I'm runnin a roached out, beat to shit, almost useless Airflo Ridge. Been using it since last fall. Don't think I'll get another one.
     
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    I switched from the Ridge to the airflo Miracle Braid and dude, what a difference. Its a little harder to hang on to on those cold ass days on the Penninsula when your fingers can't even grab a chew, but it has far less tangles and I love hearing it rip through the guides. Im outfitting all my speys with this running line skagits and scandi's. Tons of good options out there.
     
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    I like a tapered one for mending. I can't shoot 100 ft. but I rarely need or want to here in Oh. My favorites are the SA dragontail and the SGS mendmaster.
     
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    I second that notion, I have been using a couple of the SA dragontail lines and I really like them.
     
  8. Creatch'r

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    I'll take handling over distance as I can't seem to find.many reasons to fish past 80 feet most of the time. I have a Rio powerflex and I hate it. I have friends that swear by amnesia but I'm not too into tangles and if that's a common issue then ill sacrifice some distance.
     
  9. Ian Broadie

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    What do you hate about the Powerflex? Do you have tangle issues? I have used it with any number of Compact Skagit, Skagit Short, Skagit Flight, Standard Skagit, AFS, Guideline, and a Delta Spey that I cut off at the taper transition and the only time I have an issue is when I am pushing with my top hand and not pulling with my bottom hand.

    99% of running line issues can be resolved with line speed and line speed is generated by good casting technique. When using short shooting heads with running line bottom hand pull will flex the rod more, which will generate more line speed, and is essential to an efficient cast. Additionally bottom hand pull is encouraged by controlling the rod with your bottom hand throughout the cast.

    Tinker with that notion and I bet nearly all running line issues will miraculously go away.
     
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    I hate it because the blue color doesn't match my patagonia jacket. Kinda clashes. It also just doesn't shoot worth a shit and.loves to create a ratnest around my first stripping guide (keep in mind mine is.approaching 2 years of heavy use old). When it was brand new I didn't feel it was anything special but fished it because I'm cheap and it worked. Just lookin to try something new.
     
  11. Ian Broadie

    Ian Broadie Flyfishing is so "Metal"

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    It sucks when colors clash, but one must give a long hard look at properly accessorizing color schemes and make sure that all items are in feng shui while on the river.

    If you want to try something new I would give a look at the Snake River Outfitters (SRO) Ballistic running line, it shoots well, doesn't tangle terribly badly, and does not have a long break in period.

    Also I bet controlling the rod with your bottom hand will eliminate more shooting and tangling issues than new running line.
     
  12. Wadecalvin

    Wadecalvin Skagitmiester

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    I use Varivas #37 and Berkley Big Game #40 Mono, and Cheap mono on my trout stuff- gonna switch over to something else on a few of them- tired of dealing with stretching and coiling.
     
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    Ian I will work on the bottom hand. Do any of the shops carry that line? Does Ron have it?
     
  14. Ian Broadie

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    Unfortunately no I don't believe any shops carry it but you can get it at: http://www.shop.snakeriveroutfitters.com/product.sc?productId=36&categoryId=27. I will personally vouch for the line and for Lee and Nancy at SRO they are great people who are definitely worth giving your money to. Ron would say the same thing as well.

    If you want we can fish sometime and I can show you what I'm talking about.
     
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    This is the problem with short heads if you want to cast long. I have 4 fingers and a thumb, therefore I can loop about 3' of line on each of 4 fingers, my thumb is not available, nor is my other hand...so, if I try to shoot more than about 12' of running line I could run into trouble. You can turn your fingers forward on the delivery and allow the rod to take the line, but if you drop it all on the water you're looking for trouble. If I strip in more than 4 fingers I'll be lucky with the cast about 50% of the time.

    Sorry for the useless paragraph above.