"S" River Report

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Jon Brengan, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. Jon Brengan

    Jon Brengan flyfishing addict

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    figures that someone would have to accuse me of "snagging" - isn't flossing just about the same. Only problem is that you have to cast a crossed current then wait for the line to tighten, but I'm swinging the fly and getting my fish on the swing....technically that's fishing. Just like fishing for Steelhead.
     
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    See any cohos today Jon Brengan?
     
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    I disagree with Pat Lat. Sure, it's possible to floss all salmon, but conversely, it's possible to get salmon (both bright and dark fish) to eat flies. Pinks can be aggressive in rivers regardless of their color; I've had pinks with one eye molded shut bite jigs and spinners, that is they were hooked INSIDE the mouth with the hook going from the inside out. Flossed fish are generally hooked from the outside in. I've also had lots of coho and a few kings destroy stripped, twitched, and jigged flies. Just because flossing and snagging work doesn't mean that you can't get salmon to bite.

    If you are hump-hooking pinks because they are in a tight school then try a different presentation (lighter or heavier sink tip, dangling flies from upstream, indicators, etc) or move to a different section of the river where the fish are more spread out.
     
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    Well I would think that there is no way to solve the debate fully, I know the other species get caught quite regularly using standard methods, especially when bright, but the last few pink runs Ive witnessed (since about 03 was my first) Ive always seen banks full of anglers fishing for them and the only ones consistantly hooking them are the ones flossing their way through the slots. It would be nice to find a pocket of activley biting humpies, Im sure there are plenty throughout the system and good for those who have. Im just not going to try to find them amongst all the non biters and zombies in the system. There are a lot better places to fish in September of all months, than the middle of Snagville, PNW.
    PS hook placement is not always consistent either. I just recently landed a pink from the salt that had my stinger punched through the outside of the lip, just as a flossed hook could miss the first spot and end up inside.
     
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    I had many good days at a nice hole full of biting pinks on a river, where there were few other anglers and I didn't snag a single fish. Forget all the gear flossers, they have nothing to do with non-biting fish. I think you need to change your mindset and explore some new rivers.
     
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    k thanks
     
  8. Jon Brengan

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    [quote="Ive always seen banks full of anglers fishing for them and the only ones consistantly hooking them are the ones flossing their way through the slots. It would be nice to find a pocket of activley biting humpies, Im sure there are plenty throughout the system and good for those who have. Im just not going to try to find them amongst all the non biters and zombies in the system. There are a lot better places to fish in September of all months, than the middle of Snagville, PNW.[/quote]
    So I fish in the least fished places, especially on Thursday's, when I'm out. I have never been one to fish with the masses. Maybe you're accustomed to that scene but it's never been a good one for me. Plus I'm fly fishing not throwing gear so some elbow room is more like my thing. Many days - there's not another person in the same hole, so you can see why I might be put off by the analogy that I could be "flossing", as stated before all my fish came on or near the tail of the swing, where I felt a solid bite, there's absolutely no way that can be flossing when the line is either all the way down below me or quartering through the tail-end of the drift. Apparently there will no doubt be controversy over trying to have you see my point of view....can we call a truce and just agree to disagree!
     
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    I didn't get any strikes today, I had one on briefly on a fly I tied to mimic a Dick Nite spoon. An old man told me he was using that spoon to pull silvers out of that same run, on the Sky.
     
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    no I get it, as others have made clear, there seem to be some players out there, although I tend to just hear it and not see it. I just think that there are a lot of species and places to fish in our area that are better quarry than colored up humpies in a river. Sure you can have 50+fish days or better, but they're just humpies. Theres thousands of them all up and down the river you cant hardly step without your foot landing on them. Of course youll hook into fish one way or another, but wouldn't you rather fish for species that aren't on the last leg of their journey, something that has a little more spunk or mystery than freshwater pinks which is a primarily a floss fishery. It doesn't make sense to me is all. I'd much rather hit up the fall hatches in the yak area or try for some src's. Get your gear a little salty, you might catch something in the sound and not even know what species it is;) , or take a road trip to a lake you've been eyeballing over the hot summer. Personally I wouldn't want to drive somewhere, hike a mile or so away from the crowds, tie on a fly that's fresh out of the vice and (drumroll please) catch a humped out pink.
    The op wanted to know why no one braggs about their conquests fishing rivers for the elusive pink, IMO its pretty clear. No offense meant, it just really doesn't seem like its that exciting as far as fishing in WA state is concerned. Although I'm glad you were able to swing some up. I think I had more fun catching a freezer full of them from the beach than if I were to have the whole river to myself during a pink run.
     
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    I think it depends on what your goal is at the time. I agree with you Pat, and pinks are a blast, but for me it wears off quick. I do however enjoy putting other people on them who are newbies, like my son and seeing him light up, getting to easily hook multiple huge fish. After a couple trips though and a few packed smoker sessions, I am pretty done with pinks, probably because it is so little fishing and so much repetitive catching. I start missing the hunt and the surprises or skunkings that await.
     
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    And that's the nice thing about this run. Everyone can get out of it what they desire. If flossing a few fish is your thing I'm not going to judge. If catching a bunch of hard fighting small salmon is your thing, great. If, like me, completely ignoring these fish in pursuit of others is what turns your crank.... It's all about our enjoyment while not being a harm to the resource.
     
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    Pinks on a Dry - The Beezy Bomber

    Take a typical streamer hook. Tie on a piece of cross cut pink rabbit leaving enough for a little tail. Than tie on a grasshopper sized piece of pink foam plus a little extra. Wrap the rabbit forward and double layer it at the collar to fatten it up. Bring loose end of foam forward and tie down on top of collar with extra over eye of hook. Roll back extra foam lash down on collar to make a really blunt head.

    The fly should ride low in the water with very good streamer/baitfish motion and make a serious pop when stripped. Not a skater at all but a popper that swims well.
     
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    Just curious but have any of you tried the standard pink flashabou comet that works like magic on the beach. I don't really hear anyone saying they use them in rivers?