sage 1016 - light line casting

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by yuhina, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    How bout it big fella? c'mon, a little casting demo. If Mark can't demonstrate the words, maybe you can.....
    please, if I say it real nice?
    aw, c'mon, be a spey God and show me up. I put up a crappy cast, let's see your best.
    Up to your hiney in a river, any head length, any setup you've got.
    Surely one of you guys can actually get out there for a half day to get 4 seconds of vid that looks good.
     
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    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    Well, I guess we found the empty sacks in this thread.
    How bout you Mark? In your vast collection of vids, do you have any showing you, yourself, making a fishable cast on a river? with your thighs wet ? at all?

    I forgot...reference your post #149
    -excellent casting mechanics naturally result in distance. Excellent distance casters display excellent form, eg, excellent "biomechanics".
    -Longbellies require excellent form to cast, and
    -corollary: if you can't cast a longbelly, don't try to set yourself up as "casting expert"
    -I'm not a distance freak, I fish on big rivers.


    and this...is a keeper.
    :ray1:"Just remind you If i want to fish 10 weight - big fish, striper, king.... small fly - light line; heavy fly - heavy line. This is the main reason on the first video on the first page. I fish 320-900 grain on my 10 weight 16' rod, all line has their place in my fishing conditions. Period.":rofl:

    right on baby. keep schooling us. We need more advice like this.

    BTW, your assertions about T&G casting in the dark are completely wrong. There are lots of us who cast in the dark, though I and most others stick to skagit or scandi heads for that kind of work.
    Do I need to show you my nighttime speycasting video to confirm that?:rofl:

    edit: man, I need to bow out. The pickings are way too easy here, I feel like a snagger.
     
  3. inland

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    Mark,

    Respectfully I am bowing out.

    William
     
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    You are wise William.........
    Talking theory and being able to actually cast are two very different things.
    If some people `opened their minds` they might learn something but not us narrow minded types huh?
     
  5. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    hey Bruce,
    I thought I was knowledgeable for a few minutes once then I bumped into a couple guys like you.
    all respect,
    Bob
     
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    This thread brings something to light. Some serious bullshit and some real great stuff from real "good" casters.

    This fall I was fishing with Klaus Frimor; a "good" caster not poster. I have always fished stiffer, faster rods because I believed that was my style and they fit my casting personality. His comment to me was that "everyone believes faster and stiffer progressions equal more power, but they are wrong." I spent the next couple days casting rods much slower than I ever thought I'd like. What I found is what's been mentioned. The fuller flexing rod had me casting considerably further with less effort. The key was bending to the rods power (slowing down) as opposed to bending the rod with force. I want bamboo.
     
  7. Wadecalvin

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    Mark- The single spey cast is the most difficult cast to master. Much more difficult than the switch cast. Casting In deep water, with a long belly line makes it even more difficult because it basically shortens the rod length. Several of these guys have put in lots of time mastering their craft and they know how to do these casts. It is very difficult and requires the highest skill set. Some of them are true experts and professionals. Until you can prove that you can do a change of direction single spey with a long belly line in deeper water and have it land straight they will not be interested in hearing what you have to say. They know what they are talking about bro.
     
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    Hi All,
    Been sitting back and watching it all flow, i am sure its nearly done............. ......but not quite yet. .......off fly fishin for Pike for an hr or 2 before dark.
    Gordon
    DTX Pro Staff.
     
  12. James Waggoner

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    Mark, sorry to see you edited all your posts out of this thread. There were a lot of really thought provoking points brought out, but without the whole story those points perhaps are lost.

    The only point made after 176 post, a lesson for all of us...If you need to come back and retract a post perhaps it shouldn't have been said, and if you are missunderstood it's better to explain than delete...if you turely just made a bonehead comment, be a man, own it and say your sorry.

    There's no respect or peace in pretending it never happened.

    James.
     
  13. SpeySpaz

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    +1. nothing more to say, except a lesson for all is in here.
     
  14. yuhina

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    Hey James and Gentlemen,

    The writings were withdrawn and preserved, not deleted. Those thoughts discussed in this thread are all important but my thoughts were not very well presented. I will need to refine it and have a better presentation next time. We will have chance. Great discussion and I truly enjoy it.

    Sincerely, Mark
     
  15. Greg Holt

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    Whew, that's a relief. When I saw that Mark had pulled all his content I thought perhaps I had witnessed spontaneous human combustion first-hand. Glad to know he's still among us...

    Maybe there's a short in my keyboard, something sure smells burnt.