Sage and Simms at Costco?

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  1. PT

    PT Physhicist

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    Bob Balder, I'm talking about speculation as to whether the companies did this knowingly. What their motivation is, etc. 46 posts with 15 different theories.
     
  2. constructeur

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    +1 on that. 3 pages of typing just to type...If anyone gave half a pinch of shit they could call someone at any of the companies involved, or we could just continue to bitch and moan about how the evil Costco is going to run my local fly shop out of business with their offering of a whopping 2 products (that I wasn't going to buy anyway.)
     
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    Does anyone ever feel bad about buying a tv at Costco rather than a smaller "authorized retailer" of the brand?
     
  4. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    I'm shocked, shocked that you could even think that any of us could be hypocritical!

    Support your local TV store! (That is, if you can even find one!)

    K
     
  5. Derek Young

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    Let me add some to the conversation here, just having got off the phone with my local Simms representative. What's being sold at Costco was being done so without authorization from Simms - a distributor sold it to Costco without Simms' knowledge.

    That price tag you see for the waders - Simms is going into each store and buying them back at FULL RETAIL.

    It's unfortunate, but they're doing what they should to remedy the situation. As for Sage, I can't speak to that.

    Derek
     
  6. Evan Burck

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    I hope said distributor gets what's coming to them
     
  7. Jake H

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    They do sell direct to the fly shops, in fact the incidence of high volume sales to any sort of wholesaler by Sage is next to nil.
     
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    Thanks all for keeping this thread alive, if not I would have most likely missed out on my brand new "Kirkland" rod and waders.
    I didn't need a stuck-up sales rep to tell me what line to put on or which boots to buy either.......Just sayin'

    --SW
     
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    No such gear in the San Bernardino, Ca. Costco today.
     
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    Banzai FFing and VWs...Bugs & Bugs

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    I was under the impression that the area sales rep gets a cut on each rod sold, etc. Why does their need to be any 'layer' at all between the fly rod manufacturer and the fly shop. It's just a fly rod!
     
  12. Jonathan Stumpf

    Jonathan Stumpf I don't care how you fish

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    Which shop?
     
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    Reality isn't so cut and dry. One can still go down to Outdoor Emporium, a 'local' company that doesn't have knowledgable (fly) staff and doesn't pay/compensate their employees dick, and buy Simms for MSRP. Because Costco didn't honor MSRP they can no longer sell said items, even though they take care of their employees and offer them a liveable wage. In this situation who benefits from the protectionist measures?

    Not that ayone cares, but I'm not buying that in this economy someone just snuck a ton of product out of the warehouse without the manufacturers or reps knowing it happened.
     
  14. Jake H

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    Reps do get paid by volume but they don't have unlimited access to product. They send in orders and the factory fills them. Sage has several different rods in given models and the retailer gets the opportunity to sample these before buying at the behest of the rep. At 8% per sale it's hardly worth changing the sales model, in fact an employee would probably cost more in wages and benefits and increase the sale price even more. Don't confuse the reps role as a wholesaler, that's not even close to accurate.
     
  15. Kent Lufkin

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    So everyone's knickers are in a twist because Sage and Simms products were spotted at Costco. How different is that than being able to buy products from the same two manufacturers at Cabelas? Splitting hairs over the difference between Costco and Cabelas is kinda like insisting your teenage daughter is only a little bit pregnant.

    K