Sage Method

Peyton00

Active Member
#16
I am sure there are rods that cost less than half the price point this rod will have and be just as nice and catch fish all the same. The issue with fly fishing or fishing in general is you can have the most expensive rod/reel in the world and you cast in a hole with no fish you get no fish. On the other hand if you cast in a hole with lots of fish can you have a $200 rod you will catch fish......The gear is just a small part of the equation. No doubt Sage makes nice stuff but their Marketing has gone off the deep end.
+1
Here at Sage we cant really get much more out of the art and science of making fly rods. We reached the limits of technology years agos and have been changing the recipe just to keep the droolers and gear whores happy. The top end rods of the past 20 years have all been the same. Here at Sage we have an image to maintain and all the other companies are doing it too. We cant come out and say, 'Hey, it the same old song and dance' thats not our job in marketing and advertising, we need to appear updated and on top of the game... its a dog eat dog world and we are all wearing milk bone underwear. ;)
 
#20
I'm just getting back into the game after being away from fly fishing for years, so this huge marketing push for fast and even "super" fast action rods was a bit of a shock for me. When I did most of my fishing I don't even recall noticing this segment of the market. Being able to cast into the next county wasn't exactly considered a good thing lol. Sage makes great stuff though. But I think I'll stick with my IM6.
 
#21
I dont think fly rods can go any further..maybe slightly lighter or slightly lower swing weight.All the top end rods made since 2000 are just slight improvements on weight or swing weight.I personally think the allure of all new rods is to allow the average angler to "imagine" that he could cast further with this new rod.All rod actions can be created with im6,from dead slow to ultra fast.Its just the taper.Im an ocd fly tackle junkie but i have to stop myself being fooled into believing i need more and better rods,because frankly unless i improve my technique ill always be an average caster even with a $5000 rod...
 

dfl

Active Member
#23
Someone who is really good can take my $125 St Croix perform like a ballerina and it doesn't matter how pricey I'll make a METHOD perform like a Clydesdale in the KY Derby. It ain't the rod boys but the rod swinger that makes the difference.
 

Salmo_g

Well-Known Member
#24
Gag! Bull shit! Asking if Sage makes good fly rods is like asking if Trek makes good bicycles, but they've really gone over the edge with this horseshit hype. Sage boxed themselves into a corner when they claimed the ONE was the one and only, can't get no betta' than this, end all, be all, yada, yada. They doomed themselves to delivering a fucked up advertising message regardless of their rod quality forevermore, except to those who are brand new on the fly fishing block. The ONE was alleged to be lightest, bestest rod this side of unobtanium, but many ONE rods are heavier than their discontinued Z-Axis counterparts. Since Sage has made such good rods for so many years, and they can no longer dazzle the marketplace with ever-better fly rods, they've found themselves in the lowly corner of trying to baffle the market with bullshit.

Sg
 
#25
Gag! Bull @#!*% ! Asking if Sage makes good fly rods is like asking if Trek makes good bicycles, but they've really gone over the edge with this horseshit hype. Sage boxed themselves into a corner when they claimed the ONE was the one and only, can't get no betta' than this, end all, be all, yada, yada. They doomed themselves to delivering a @#!*% up advertising message regardless of their rod quality forevermore, except to those who are brand new on the fly fishing block. The ONE was alleged to be lightest, bestest rod this side of unobtanium, but many ONE rods are heavier than their discontinued Z-Axis counterparts. Since Sage has made such good rods for so many years, and they can no longer dazzle the marketplace with ever-better fly rods, they've found themselves in the lowly corner of trying to baffle the market with @#!*% .

Sg
You beat me to it by 5 minutes! :D Marketing, you gotta love it.
 
#26
The marketers don't understand that the message they are sending is you were a doop for believing the last rod you bought from sage was the best they could make.
Maybe sticking with and developing a consistent product line and making improvements over the years would sit better with those who thought the One was the one.
This marketing tactic from my perspective is a brilliant way of diluting a brand and eroding stream cred.
 

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#27
Someone who is really good can take my $125 St Croix perform like a ballerina and it doesn't matter how pricey I'll make a METHOD perform like a Clydesdale in the KY Derby. It ain't the rod boys but the rod swinger that makes the difference.
While I don't agree 100%, I mostly agree. My $220 St. Croix Legend ultra 4wt is fast, crisp and well made. Most newbies fail to get the right line for the stick. I know i did. Thats where a good flyshop can save tons of hate and discontent. A poorly lined $1000 rod will still fish like shit, and a $140 rod (like my dearly loved 8wt 10'6"echo ion) with the right line is a pleasure to cast.
 
#28
I'm sure its a quality rod, but you gotta ask the age old question- is it the rod or the caster? It's the caster peeps. I personally prefer the medium action rods of a few years back. Maybe at that time they were called "fast" but nowadays they would be called medium or medium fast. I like to feel the rod load!
 
#29
I'm sure its a quality rod, but you gotta ask the age old question- is it the rod or the caster? It's the caster peeps. I personally prefer the medium action rods of a few years back. Maybe at that time they were called "fast" but nowadays they would be called medium or medium fast. I like to feel the rod load!
Respectfully the age old questions have been asked and answered, rifles(long arms) shotguns, women, cars etc..

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