Sauk report/warning

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Kristin, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. HauntedByWaters

    HauntedByWaters Active Member

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    EXACTLY!!!

    And this is why it enrages us hard workers to no end.

    Life is NOT easy and some days my life is downright hellish but I keep going and I am happy most of the time (especially when fishing).

    The money comes hard and monotonously and when somebody tries to steal my stuff that I bought with said money, I pretty much LOSE MY MIND.

    I have been ripped off numerous times at my home, in my car (not while fishing though) and lost some of my favorite things (like a guitar) that keep me trudging through the shit storm times of my life (As Mr. Lahey would put it).

    I feel sympathy for drug addicts to some extent but most of the ones I have seen and known are usually spoiled kids, or dumbass kids, who refuse to cross the bridge from childhood to adulthood (I don't believe in adolescence because you don't know shit until you pay ALL you bills yourself with money you earned on your own). They were not poor, they were not even dumb, just slackers and it is those slackers with idle hands that get heavily into drugs and become leeches to all of us.

    Sure addiction is an illness but when will they classify laziness as an illness and unemployment as an illness et cetera.

    I chuckle when I am at a party and I hear someone with dreadlocks bitching about how there are no good jobs in Bellingham as if they should have a right to work in someone's business while stinking and being high and pretty much being totally unattractive (unemployable).

    I think there is something wrong with part of my generation. No drive, no interest in work, AND they think they have a right to do nothing except feed their pleasure centers.

    To the man who got clean, that is wonderful. If only every idiot who smoked meth or heroine could take that same leap and give up unwarranted pleasure, I am sure it is unbelievable hard and that is exactly why I never tried any of that shit.
     
  2. Les Johnson

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    There isn't really very much we can do about having our vehicles ransacked and cleaned out. LE everywhere will tell you that they cannot put any time or energy into investigative work. They don't dust an automobile for prints, or even ask around local businesses to pick up information. In other words, it ain't "Law & Order" out there along the river banks. It is however in my opinion paramount that all break-ins are reported to fish and wildlife enforcement, local and state police in hopes that a high enough stack of paperwork will eventually translate into additional funding for law enforcement at all levels. Catching thieves and tossing them in jail is one method of reducing such crimes that does work.
    As for packing a sidearm, you had better be handy with it and prepared to use it once you draw. The thief you catch may also be packing and just might not hesitate to shoot you first. And remember, once a bullet leaves the barrel of a gun, it cannot be taken back.
    I believe that the people doing this vandalizing and thievery are in most respects, products of their environment...and I am not saying this to give them an excuse. I would dearly love to see them hauled off to jail in handcuffs, along with the people who raised them to feel that they have a right to other peoples' property.
    My 2-cents,
    Les Johnson
     
  3. jasmillo

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    I agree with you for the most part. There are quite a few adults who are just lazy and don’t want to cross over into adulthood and quite a few spoiled rich kids who have the time and the money to waste on drugs. There are also a ton of non-tweaker teenagers breaking into cars and stealing stuff just because they can.

    However, a true addict is different. I know of a few people that I am very close to (family members/ friends) who were serious addicts/alcoholics. Three in particular were hardcore sh$%h$%ds when they were addicts. They were absolutely awful people who did awful things. However, once they got cleaned up (and prior to becoming addicts) they became model citizens, literally. Work extremely hard, support their families, wouldn’t steal a thing or hurt a fly. Some of the nicest and trustworthy people I know. They were just hooked beyond their ability to cope with it and eventually needed help to kick it.

    I know for a fact they would have stolen things to get their next fix. I also know they would have felt guilty as hell after doing it but the pull of the drug was so strong it didn’t matter. Folks in this state of mind will not be deterred by acts of violence, arrest, etc.
     
  4. Salmo_g

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    "Folks in this state of mind will not be deterred by acts of violence, arrest, etc."

    And therein lies the perverse entertainment value in thinking of them getting beaten to such a pulp that they can't walk, or being shot and killed. It's the only effective deterrent. That's why we sometimes think about it.
     
  5. Jason Wood

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    I think half the reason people like to act like assholes anymore is that most people have never had a good ole ass-beating. There are no real physical consequences anymore. Most people would probably behave themselves if they thought they might get punched in the face. I've given and taken beat downs, and there are definitely things I'd rather be doing, like fishin' or making hanky-panky with the wife.:thumb:
     
  6. Hillbilly Redneck

    Hillbilly Redneck wishin i was fishin

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    Yeah.

    That's why I punch my kids every time they lose a fish:)
     
  7. PT

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    You a Darrington native? What are your thoughts about a thread like this?

    I know what I think and putting down a bunch of people who live in the rural areas just seems pretty ignorant.

    What do you think?
     
  8. HauntedByWaters

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    I think we are talking about methheads right??????

    Not Darrington natives right?????

    I am pretty sure that is a major generalization.
     
  9. Abel1

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    When we leave our rigs we all know the risks. If we get back too them at the right time, yeeha! the fight is on! Fair is fair.
     
  10. jasmillo

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    boy oh boy...lotta d%ck wagging going on around here. Whole lotta :mad: folks.

    I do notice alot of you are very happy to spout off from your keyboards. No disrespect but my guess is that 90% of you would hide in the bushes until the methhead was done ravaging your vehicle and then you'd go home a beat your dog.

    Yes, Salmo G...this post is pointed directly in your direction :D
     
  11. psumike

    psumike new to the left coast

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    Hi Kristin & Nathan,

    I was the guy in the VW that was parked across the road that (just) got my window etched at the same time and place. Sorry to have met you guys that way. It somewhat ruined my day on the Yak on Sunday because I only wanted to fish within 100 yards and in plain sight of my car.

    -- Mike D.
     
  12. Hillbilly Redneck

    Hillbilly Redneck wishin i was fishin

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    I am not a Darrington native. I've only lived here about 12 years. My wife has lived here and taught at DHS since 1980. I doubt any Darrington folks give a rip about what anyone thinks of them (including me) especially from a fly fishing forum:) There are a lot of super hard working people around here that put in tons of time doing things for this community. Darrington is a pretty unique town. That being said it has it's share of mis-guided young people that are probably the one's responsible for the break in's. Or they could be mis-guided young people from Concrete:)
    I personally am more concerned when I hear of houses getting broken into. This summer a couple of my neighbors got burglarized by culprits riding a quad. Anyone remember Mincio Donciev? I'd like to see you confront him.

    I've talked to folks more than once who where up here fishing from Seattle or where ever and they've referred to the area as "God's Country". I tend to take it for granted. But when I stop and look around, it is.
     
  13. Andrew Lawrence

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    Mike,

    I’m the fly fisherman with the maroon Ford Crown Victoria that was parked behind your VW. As I was leaving, you flagged me down in order tell me about what had happened to your vehicle. Although my vehicle was parked behind yours, it was left untouched. As I was storing my gear, you mentioned that you had been fishing at a few other spots through out the course of the day. Anyhow, I was wondering if what happened to your vehicle could have happened at any of the other spots that you had been fishing at. Just curious!

    Nonetheless, I was sorry to hear about what happened to your vehicle, and I am sorry to learn about Kristen and Nathan’s vehicle being broken into. However, don’t let this episode deter you from fishing the Sauk River.

    Regards,

    Andrew
     
  14. psumike

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    Andrew,

    I'm on the order of 98% sure that it happened there. I was very conscientious about break-ins all day b/c the first place I parked along the Skagit had fresh glass among the other two trucks that were parked there -- though neither had been broken into. That is, I check my car regularly and the damage was quite clear after driving 50 yards. Also, Kristin's vehicle had similar markings on one of its windows.

    I made a slightly longer post in the Stilly break-in thread regarding a truck that had pulled up behind my car on the Sauk about 400 yards upstream an hour before our cars were damaged. I appeared to surprise those guys and they didn't seem like they were about to go fishing. They might have been legit, but it struck me as weird.

    -- Mike D.
     
  15. cuponoodle breakfast

    cuponoodle breakfast Bigfoot is blurry

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    I do. A guy I used to work with was one of the trackers who helped catch him. The mountain man also broke into some of the homes in a friend's neighborhood.
    You might be onto something. It's not tweakers or tarheels breaking into cars, it's Bulgarians!