Scadden Outlaw Assault

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  1. bitterroot

    bitterroot Love vintage graphite!

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    By "higher capacity" do you mean load carrying capacity?
     
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  3. bitterroot

    bitterroot Love vintage graphite!

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    NFO rates the Assault at 800 lbs. weight carrying capacity. I'm about 200 lbs so that gives me 600 lbs. of cargo capacity, and I'll never come close to that, even on multi day floats, with careful planning & packing. I may not be able to haul a bunch of cast iron dutch ovens but I can surely haul all the camping/fishing necessities I will ever need.
     
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    Having had mine pretty well loaded a couple of time. I'm not close to filling it with enough to make it lack in performance. I never really got to load my kodiak for a mulit day float. I'm sure it could handle it though. Both are great boats.
     
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    That makes sense to me. I am thinking about buying one and I was just wondering if there is a control factor on the capacity of the raft based on how it sits in the water and tracks in the water. When you talked to Dave did that come up? Because if you think about it the lower weight capacity would sit lower in water thus track better.
     
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    I was also thinking about using it for September Archery Elk hunting in Wyoming and Montana. I think it would be easy to float out an elk. I was also thinking doing the same in Alaska for a moose hunt.
     
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    So has anyone actually had one on the water? They look pretty cool.
     
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    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Bitterroot, Rob Ast and I have them. Very nice boats. I prefer mine over my watermaster, so I sold the watermaster. Both are great boats. I'm happy with my decision.
     
  9. bitterroot

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    Yep, I've had mine on the Yakima a few times. Again, I'm an inexperienced boater/floater but I really like it. Very responsive, very comfortable and I feel very secure in it. I know two other forum members that I'm sure would echo my sentiments. I did not like using fins, but that was just my lack of experience. The other guys I know use fins all day and rarely touch the oars. I'm very happy with it.
     
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    I don't own a Scadden boat, but judging from similar sized makes of boats, I think Dave Scadden grossly overestimates the capacity of his boats! I can't help but think he is the watercraft equavilant of a used car salesman!
     
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    Think what you want. Study numbers if you want. User known facts from this guy:
    Boat floats my 225# fat ass, all my excessive gear and keeps me well above the water line in class II to III stuff. Handles like a sports car in fast current with little effort on the sticks. Fin kicks great in moderate flows allowing great tracking and hands free to fish. I like mine. I've never met Dave, have chatted with him and his staff on the phone. I like the boat alot and sold a non rockered boat of similar size and design.
    I'm not Scadden apologist. I bought mine from hiim knowing I may have long delays or questions unanswerd. I'm glad I bought thisis boat.
     
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    Hey Mr Mumbles, did you take your Assault down that little Idaho stream last month? Did you float/drag down from the airport?
     
  13. bitterroot

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    See post #18. I don't care if he does overrate the capacity...I'll never come close anyway. More Scadden hate is all this is. I didn't buy the boat because I was in love with Dave Scadden any more than I bought my last used car because I was chubbed up by the car salesman.
     
  14. Brian Miller

    Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    fisharama doesn't speak kindly of BSI (Water Master) either...
     
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    Builder, our group brought two Scadden Assaults and three Watermaster Kodiaks for a possible wilderness float. Water was super clear, lower than our trip last year by a foot or more. We did not float. Maybe next time!