Scuds - Whats the trigger

jwg

Active Member
#1
Any thoughts on what's key in a scud design?
The shell back?
wire ribbing?
The bushy underside?

I ask because store bought scuds have worked as well as any pattern I've tied myself, and better than most.
Scuds.jpg
I dont think the dense brush underneath looks realistic or creates the right overall shape. But they work.

the white bead on chironomids makes a nice trigger.

I'd really like to come up with a minimal scud with the right trigger or combination of triggers.

Jay
 
#2
Hi Jay, one "trigger" for scuds is to tie in some orange dubbing in the middle to represent a pregnant female egg sack. Sometimes the fish will key on these for additional protein.
 

ScottP

Active Member
#3
Hi Jay, one "trigger" for scuds is to tie in some orange dubbing in the middle to represent a pregnant female egg sack. Sometimes the fish will key on these for additional protein.
Probably why the hot bead flies work so well on a lot of the MT tailwaters.

Regards,
Scott
 

jwg

Active Member
#4
DSC04783crop.jpg So I tried a minimal pattern an orange bead once, but lacking segmentation or shell back. tied in the round, so to speak.

Heres a picture, but the ones I fished were actually smaller.

I got a hook up on the second try. but it was a fluke. could not get another bite all afternoon on that pattern but regular store bought scuds worked.

So I am concluding I need some other features.
Top differnt from bottom
Tranparent shell back
Back darker than bottom
segmentation

Not sure which features are most important. Hence the post.

Jay
 

jwg

Active Member
#7
reading the article, tying in the round without a shellback or segmentation is OK
fuzzy impressionistic may be the key.
So my use of ostrich herl, is probably too uniform and orderly.
I did not know about the reasons for the orange color.

Jay