Sea Lions shot on the Nisqually River

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  1. lives2bwild

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    golden trout....i agree that modern humans are certaintly the most over populated animalr our earth has ever seen. and it is deffinitly sad that know one addresses the overpopulation of our own species, which like you said is the BIGGEST problem our earth faces. but for you to say we have no place in the food chain is bull shit. I AM A PREDETOR! as are all of you. and i would rather die then to give up my ancient right to kill and consume. we have a roll in natures balance it only takes a small look into our past to realize it
     
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    i thought i would also say that shootin seals with a gun just because they got your fish is pretty sick and twisted
     
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    The court decision raised a basic question: Why is it not O.K. for sea lions, who tend to cluster at the base of the Bonneville dam waiting for dinner to be delivered, to snack on as much as 4.2 percent of the salmon in the river when it is O.K. for human fishermen to catch four times as many?


    Pass the salt please!
     
  4. lives2bwild

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    porter i agree there really isnt a problem with them being there, but if there isnt enough food for the population of seals, this means a certain quota would be expected to die of starvation, if thats the case why not let me eat those seals?
     
  5. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    Just stating facts. Their population has exploded; the reasons for which we can debate. What would your "fairly radical sacrifices" involve?
     
  6. PfleugerPhister

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    I think we should kill 100 humans for every dead sea lion. The population has exploded and is reaching beyond carrying capacity. Tags should be issued where you either kill someone or kill yourself. Help the cause and save the fish
     
  7. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    Here's an idea. How about all you who believe evil, carbon emitting humans are the problem offer yourselves up as part of the solution. If you guys lead by example, we will follow... promise ;)
     
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    killing sea lions, in light of of the value our society generally places on marine mammals, would be "fairly radical" (and i'm personally for it). others are obvious. but what they all "involve", as you ask, is ignoring the passionate cries/beliefs/claims/rights of some existing group with a stake in the issue. that's why the solution will be radical, or more likely, why there won't be a solution at all.
     
  10. gldntrt40

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    Never did I say we weren't an important part of the food chain, that would be crazy. As a human that wants to survive I'd eat the last condor, sea lion and neighbor if I was all out of mastodon and tweenkies, just saying that we got the problem of not only being the top of the food chain, we have no predators on us.... except all you guys that keep getting stalked by cougars ..I'm not fishing with those who have a rare apex predator on their tails... And, extinction and mutation are why we are here and why we will leave.

    Problem is we've reached the time when some creatures are getting rare on our hands that we want to keep around for sport or food and it makes more sense to serve up a 1000 pound angus than the equivalant of
    1000 pounds of wild Quinault Steelhead..... or 4,000 rare bird x 4 oz.

    Hunting wild animals WILL come to an end one way or another..same with fishing, but it would be nice put that off a tad.
    Just my opinions...
     
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    _WW_ Geriatric Skagit Swinger

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    It is now 'our' world...and has been for quite some time. I for one feel very fortunate to be at the top of the food chain and in charge of their fate instead of them in charge of mine. :)
     
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    I just hope we can agree it is wrong to conduct illegal activities such as this- set by law, until the law changes.
    Anyone who condones it should be booted from society for being above the law.

    Poachers of any types should be dismissed of.

    If one doesn't like it, run for office, start a grassroots campaign to change the laws, throw big bucks behind
    your plan, go to college and get educated and be qualified to apply for the top dog job of decision making on these manners.
    Or atleast, vote and accept majority rule.
    Just don't be the jackass who thinks he can pull the trigger without society's laws consent, that's
    straight up chickenshit justice.
     
  13. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    We should get these sea lions to register themselves, or else export 'em back to Canada.
     
  14. freestoneangler

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    Interesting perspective. No amnesty for the illegal CA, OR and Canadian Sea Lions :ray1:
     
  15. lives2bwild

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    well said goldentrout. and i deffinitly agree poaching wrong, theres plenty of legal wild animals to eat