SEPTEMBER FLY SALON

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Jack Devlin, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. S Fontinalis

    S Fontinalis Active Member

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    Mostly fish them in rivers, in fact, pretty much exclusively in rivers.
    You can dead drift them or swing them....either way is effective.
     
  2. kelvin

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    nice wings
    never have gotten the hang of that
    have to have you show me sometime
     
  3. TD

    TD Active Member

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    First time participating in one of these. Here's my version of a fly I saw in a magazine a while back. I've been fishing it this August with pretty good results. Not very traditional but the fish don't seem to care.

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    Hook: Curved Shank Stonefly Size 12 3XL
    Tail: Golden Pheasant Tippet
    Body: Peacock, Red Seal Fur Dubbing, Peacock
    Underwing: White Poly Yarn & a few strands of crystal flash
    Wing/collar: Deer Hair tied in forward then pulled back to form the head & collar/wing.
    Legs: Orange rubber legs.
     
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    TD Active Member

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    Comparing my photo to the ones you guys take, it is obvious that I'm no photographer.
     
  5. Jack Devlin

    Jack Devlin Active Member

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    Now there's a Coachman I never thought of . I like it. Do you recall what the fly was called?
    Jack
     
  6. TD

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    not sure what its' name is/was. I'll look through my magazines and see if I can find it.
     
  7. TD

    TD Active Member

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    Hey Jack - HO Candy is all that I can remember right now. I googled it and found a few hits that showed similar style fly patterns.
    Tim
     
  8. Jack Devlin

    Jack Devlin Active Member

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    That's a good one. I don't think it refers to the Hoh.;)
    Jack
     
  9. porterHause

    porterHause Just call me Jon

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    Anyone got a link to a history of the Coachman fly, or more info about them? Or is it like...peacock body and go with it?
     
  10. TD

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    If i'm not mistaken the Royal Coachman is known as the first American born popular fly pattern. I think it was created by a fly tier in New York in the late 1800's. There is a very old book about flies & their histories that was written the same time period by Mary Orvis Marbury (spelling?). If you can find a copy it most likely would have the history of the fly.

    I heard somewhere that the fly tier was asked to tie some extra durable coachman flies for a guy to take on a fishing trip. So the tier wrapped the body in floss to help it hold together. He also used wood duck for the tail. Since the end result was not a coachman it earned the title royal coachman.

    I'm not certain of all this, its just what I remember being told somewhere or reading somewhere many years ago.

    Perhaps some of our more knowledgeable members know the real history or can expand on my limited info.
     
  11. Jack Devlin

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    Here are a few links which may be of help. If you do a search on any one of the patterns mentioned in the first thread post you will get a bunch of results.
    The Coachman fly in its many variations is an "old" fly but still viable today. As an example, a pattern currently very popular for steelhead on the Deschutes River (OR) is the Coachman Bucktail Streamer (similar to my Calftail Coachman).
    I chose the Coachman style for the theme because it has an interesting history and I thought it would be a good fly for veteran and novice tiers. Also, it will be a good experience to learn the nuances of peacock herl, the one material common to all Coachman flies, and a material used in so many fly patterns. Pick one of the patterns or create your own.
    Hope this helps.
    Jack
    "The 'Royal Coachman' and Some of His Henchmen" - Fly Angler's Online Volumn 12 week 17
    Royal Coachman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    www.northfloridaflyfishing.com/pdf/TheWesternCoachmanHistoryandLineage.pdf
     
  12. porterHause

    porterHause Just call me Jon

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    IMG_20120918_222836_edit0.jpg Royal Intruder... Terrible pic. I'll try this again when I figure out the whole photo thing.
     
  13. Billy Vanosdol

    Billy Vanosdol Fly Chuker

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    Claret Steelhead Coachman

    It's a small steelhead fly for those low, clear rivers where the fish like small, dark buggy flies. I hooked one this summer with this pattern but didn't land him. However, as we all know, a steelhead will take anything when he's in the mood... Probably work pretty good for sea-run cutthroat too.

    I should have hit the head with one more coat of lacquer but I'll probably lose the fly this weekend anyway so I was lazy...

    Ingredients:
    Alec Jackson Spey #7
    Lagurtun gold flat tinsel
    Peacock eye hero twisted in a rope with extra-small round Lagurtun gold tinsel "Alec Jackson style"
    Claret Berlin wool
    Half-bronze schlappen
    Claret schlappen
    Cream rooster breast hackle
    Gudebrod #8 black thread

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  15. kelvin

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    Thomas as always beautiful tie!!