SFR: If incompetent state legislature doesn't enact a budget by 7/1....

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Dan Nelson, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. speyfisher

    speyfisher Active Member

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    Wonder if just turning them loose ever crossed his mind? Oh, I forgot, he works for the guvamint.
     
  2. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    So it's true, you can tax your way back to a balanced budget... then immediately increase funding to the state public employee unions. Chris, if you endorse this path to recovery so much, would you mind increasing your tax burden to say 70% so I don't have too?
     
  3. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

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    Yes I would mind, cause I gotta' feelin' you don't need it.
     
  4. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    Rhetoric and hyperbole Dan. Like the Fed's did running up to the sequester, they'll selectively choose items to help cause irritation and move agenda's, but they'll never stop running...and you can damn well rest assured their paychecks won't stop coming. They often like to tell us we're at the precipice and serious stuff is about to happen... but back off at the 11:59 hour because they don't want us to see that beyond that edge is a mere 2 foot drop.
     
  5. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    I don't need what Chris... the money I earned? So out of curiosity, if you were President Chris "you didn't earn that" Johnson (wow, that was scary), what would be the acceptable allotment for personal use?
     
  6. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    I just heard from WDFW's Inland Fish Program Manager Chris Donley with an answer to my question about shutting down commercial and recreational fishing and hatcheries. Here's his email:

    "No enforcement - shut down of most recreational and commercial fishing. Shut down as in Closed. Not sure the fate of hatcheries yet."

    K
     
  7. Fishee

    Fishee Active Member

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    Agree, i want my lisence fee back.
     
  8. Dan Nelson

    Dan Nelson Hiker, Fisher, Writer, Bum

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    I don't disagree that it's all rhetoric and total bullshit, but this situation is more akin to the 1995-96 Federal Government shutdown than the sequester of this year. In that case, the government DID largely shut down -- for the same reason Washington's may: no budget in place. Again, I'm not saying this is the end of the world, and certainly not something that is inevitable. Simply that, without a budget in place, the spineless ass-hat politicians will shut down large segments of the state because they (the legislators) couldn't get their shit together.

    Worse, though those legislators technically won't be paid either after July 1, some of them have already admitted they'll just retroactively pay themselves once a budget is adopted.

    As far as I'm concerned, every member of the legislature should have their pay suspended THE DAY the regular legislative session ends. They should NOT draw pay -- nor per diem -- for any special session work because the need for a special session just means they did NOT do their required job in the legally allotted time. Don't reward them for laziness. Can't get the job done in time? Fine, work extra time but they shouldn't be paid for it.

    If Tim Eyman (or someone) wants to take on THAT issue as an initiative, I'd be happy to support him for once.
     
  9. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    Well, since a good number of them have been closed anyway, even when they're open, perhaps this is just the reprieve the fisheries need. Maybe we could lobby for a new "yarn-tuft/casting practice only stamp"... results wouldn't be much different.
     
  10. Salmo_g

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    July 1, go fishing. Don't worry. Be happy. Just follow the fishing regulations already in place. If a WDFW agent shows up to enforce "the closure" then the state was lying about suspending gov't. services.
     
  11. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

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    There ya go puttin' words in my mouth and makin' assumptions. What I said was, you don't need ME to pay YOUR share of taxes.
     
  12. bulletsnhooks

    bulletsnhooks Pat Coleman

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    All I know is I was notified yesterday that I would be getting a lay-off notice Monday, and if no budget was reached, no job on July 1. Now I can't even go fishing...double screwed.
     
  13. PT

    PT Physhicist

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    There's no enforcement now so I don't see that as being anything other than a scare tactic. In fact, this whole sham is nothing more than a scare tactic. They'll find the time to pass a bill removing the words "fireman, manhole cover, freshman, etc." from public documents.... Maybe they should have been working on the budget instead......?
     
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    PT Physhicist

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    Classic!!!
     
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  15. Mingo

    Mingo the Menehune stole my beer

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    Then this state will be an even MORE attractive poacher's playground than it already is. Lovely. I like Salmo's post, but it's kinda hard to go fishing if the State Parks I like have a locked gate barring my entry.