shad on the snake

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  1. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    If you check that site out Mike, you will see shad aren't counted at all locations. Hence my question. I'd like a shorter drive, the same as you and wish I could find shad counts at the upstream dams.
     
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    fished below ice harbor on Saturday from 0430 to about 0900. I didn't touch a fish, not even an incidental bass, which is unusual. I only saw 3 shad caught by gear fishermen. Typically with the numbers going over ice harbor, the river below is full of shad. I don't know why things were so off for me, I haven't paid much attention to moon phases in the past, but we did have a full moon on Friday.
     
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    cmann, did you fish the north or south shore? i might go down on wed or thurs. what time of day do you think would be the best? thanks, mike w
     
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    I always fish the south shore for shad. I normally do the best early morning. With 9904 over the dam yesterday and high numbers all week you should have a bunch of fish in the river. Let me know you you do.
     
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    So, if there was the will and the resources, does this mean it would be possible to rework the fish ladders at say Bonneville, to block shad while letting native species through? Thus eliminating the impact of vast numbers of shad fry scarfing up the food in the reservoirs that the salmon smolts need for their slow passage to sea in a dammed up river?

    Jay
     
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    does that mean they stack up below priest rapids? why dont they want shad upriver of priest? the shad did not hit my fly at ice harbor, nada. might go to upriver to lomo next week. mike w
     
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    Presumably, but a portion of the run uses the navigation locks at Bonneville, and not the ladder. This is why counts at The Dalles are usually greater than at Bonneville.

    I think the reason why they don't want them going above Priest Rapids Dam is that it would provide access to additional spawning habitat, and could increase the overall population size. I posted a thread here a couple days ago that provides a link to an article that shows the link between the dams and shad in the Columbia.
     
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    it is a fishery that provides enjoyment and eating. i have not caught one but intend to do so some day. what if the shad fishers want salmon/steelhead blocked at some dam? i know it would not happen but it is just a thought. am going to lomo on wed or thurs. mike w
     
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    I love catching shad. One of the most fun fish in the world. The only one that I have ever had to hand, had the fish slip out and then take out more line on another run. The larger females should be in the river at ice harbor this week. I haven't ever fished lower mo. so I have no idea how that might fish. I'll probably give ice harbor one more go this year.